New processer instability

MattyJ · 04-01-2006, 12:36

Hi everyone, up until now I was running a Athlon 2000 with no problems. I got hold of a second hand XP3000+ and decided to whack it straight in as it uses the same socket and my cooler (Zalman 7000) is supposed to be fine for it.

Now, however, the system is unstable and resets itself if I do anything intensive with it. Motherboard Monitor and Speedfan report temperatures of either about 33 or 77! When its on 77 it doesn't move about at all so I don't know if there's a glitch on my (cheap) motherboard, and there's no in between those temps - weird I know!

I'm guessing my system's running too hot, but I tried turning up the speed of the Zalman cooler, and installing an intake fan, and the system still reset itself. I'm stuck and frustrated, can anyone help me out please?

Neo Master Kill · 04-01-2006, 13:34

You checked if the system is picking up the CPU properly. I remember a friend of mine done an upgrade VERY similar to what you have done. Try resetting the BIOS and a BIOS update

MattyJ · 04-01-2006, 13:39

I've already reset the bios settings and fiddled with the fsb settings - it tried to pick it up as a 2200+ until i changed it to 166mhz. I can't find a bios update for my board either. Is it probable that its a motherboard problem then? Thanks for quick reply.

Neo Master Kill · 04-01-2006, 13:49

I honestly dont know now what is going on. What is the make and model of your motherboard?

MattyJ · 04-01-2006, 13:56

Its an Elite L7S7A2 (sometimes listed as just L7S7A).

Affro · 04-01-2006, 14:09

All you need is a bios update, trust me.

Fro.

Carbine · 04-01-2006, 15:06

are you sure it isn't just a dodgey second hang cpu you bought?

Neo Master Kill · 04-01-2006, 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Affro

All you need is a bios update, trust me.

Fro.

What I said dude

bluspikez · 04-01-2006, 20:34

Is your heatsink seated properly? That could cause instability and high temps. If I were you I would try re-seating the HSF and putting a new helping of thermal paste on there too.

MattyJ · 06-01-2006, 13:20

OK cheers for the suggestions. I've now tried taking off the heatsink and reapplying the thermal paste. I've also looked for a new bios - I found one hacked bios for overclocking (called cheepobios) and a slight fix for my bios. However the flashing program doesn't seem to work with either of the new bioses and I've tried 3 different versions of the program. The minor fix is nothing to do with processors anyway.

I'm pretty sure that the processor's absolutely fine, because I used the PC it was in for a day to do video editing and there were no problems. At the moment I'm just running it as a 2200 and it goes fine.

I think I've sorted MBM to a degree - when its running as 2200 it gets up to about 35 under load, and when its a 3000 it gets up to about 38 before crashing. Both hover about 30 when its idle.

What should I be looking into now? This is getting frustrating, having a faster cheap basically going at the same speed as my old one!

bluspikez · 08-01-2006, 21:49

Does your RAM support the FSB that you are trying to run? It sounds like the processor isn't too hot so maybe it isn't the CPU?

MattyJ · 08-01-2006, 23:36

I think it does - I've got DDR333 2700 ram. This is a link to what the Crucial System Scanner says (I think it will work on anyone's machine):

http://www.crucial.com/uk/systemscan...926C3&tabid=CR

Note I've got the FSB running at 133 here because its stable, but when I turn it up to 166 this is where it gets unstable. Cheers.

Kmc · 09-01-2006, 04:31

if its a fake 3000 then that would be why it can't do 166, there have been alot of them although mostly 3200.
google for fake 3200 u are looking for info re what bridges are cut I think the fsb is determined by the L12 bridge but don't quote me on that
Fake ones have been modded so u would need a magnifying glass to check if the bridges are really cut or just made to look that way

MattyJ · 12-01-2006, 00:41

Well like I said it was in a PC before mine running as a 3000, so I doubt it is a fake! Said PC was in a industrial environment, so it was originally bought from a reputable source.

At the moment from what suggestions I've had I'm tending towards getting a new motherboard. I also want to be able to change the IRQ of devices, which mine won't let me do. Does anyone think this is a good/bad idea, or have any suggestions as to what motherboard to replace mine with?

Koolpc · 12-01-2006, 08:00

I would get a new Motherboard mate. Should solve your problem.

04-01-2006, 12:36	#1
MattyJ Kustomer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 76	New processer instability Hi everyone, up until now I was running a Athlon 2000 with no problems. I got hold of a second hand XP3000+ and decided to whack it straight in as it uses the same socket and my cooler (Zalman 7000) is supposed to be fine for it. Now, however, the system is unstable and resets itself if I do anything intensive with it. Motherboard Monitor and Speedfan report temperatures of either about 33 or 77! When its on 77 it doesn't move about at all so I don't know if there's a glitch on my (cheap) motherboard, and there's no in between those temps - weird I know! I'm guessing my system's running too hot, but I tried turning up the speed of the Zalman cooler, and installing an intake fan, and the system still reset itself. I'm stuck and frustrated, can anyone help me out please?

04-01-2006, 13:34	#2
Neo Master Kill Gumpcom Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Falkirk Posts: 264	You checked if the system is picking up the CPU properly. I remember a friend of mine done an upgrade VERY similar to what you have done. Try resetting the BIOS and a BIOS update __________________

04-01-2006, 13:49	#4
Neo Master Kill Gumpcom Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Falkirk Posts: 264	I honestly dont know now what is going on. What is the make and model of your motherboard? __________________

04-01-2006, 14:09	#6
Affro Regular Kustomer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Glasgow Posts: 144	All you need is a bios update, trust me. Fro. __________________ I'm Hopelessly addicted to Forthy

04-01-2006, 15:06	#7
Carbine Watercooling Monster Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Worcester, West Mids Posts: 1,955	are you sure it isn't just a dodgey second hang cpu you bought? __________________ Abit IN9 Max WiFi, C2D e6600@3.8Ghz, 4Gb GSkill HZ6400, BFG 9800GTX, Enermax Galaxy 1Kw, Soundblaster XFI, Lian Li G70, 36Gb Raptor, 2x320Gb Seagates, 2x750Gb Seagates, 250Gb Spinpoint, Aquacomputer cooled, 2x Belinea 102035w LCD

04-01-2006, 13:39	#3
MattyJ Kustomer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 76	I've already reset the bios settings and fiddled with the fsb settings - it tried to pick it up as a 2200+ until i changed it to 166mhz. I can't find a bios update for my board either. Is it probable that its a motherboard problem then? Thanks for quick reply.

04-01-2006, 13:56	#5
MattyJ Kustomer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 76	Its an Elite L7S7A2 (sometimes listed as just L7S7A).

04-01-2006, 20:34	#9
bluspikez Super Kustomer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Michigan (I'm from the states) Posts: 964	Is your heatsink seated properly? That could cause instability and high temps. If I were you I would try re-seating the HSF and putting a new helping of thermal paste on there too. __________________ Main Compy: MSI P7N Diamond, Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, Thermalright Ultra120-eXtreme, 4gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer (2x2gb, 4-4-4-12), 2xECS 8800GT's (w/ Arctic Cooling Accelero S1's) in SLi, ASUS Xonar DX, WD Raptor 150gb SATA, Seagate 320gb SATA, Seagate 80gb ATA, Antec 900, Thermaltake Toughpower Modular 700w, Viewsonic VX922, Logitech G7 and Elite Keyboard Speaker System: Pioneer VSX-815, Yamaha NS-333's, Yamaha NSC-444, Yamaha NX-220P's, JBL Sub12 ...and I love Forthy

06-01-2006, 13:20	#10
MattyJ Kustomer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 76	OK cheers for the suggestions. I've now tried taking off the heatsink and reapplying the thermal paste. I've also looked for a new bios - I found one hacked bios for overclocking (called cheepobios) and a slight fix for my bios. However the flashing program doesn't seem to work with either of the new bioses and I've tried 3 different versions of the program. The minor fix is nothing to do with processors anyway. I'm pretty sure that the processor's absolutely fine, because I used the PC it was in for a day to do video editing and there were no problems. At the moment I'm just running it as a 2200 and it goes fine. I think I've sorted MBM to a degree - when its running as 2200 it gets up to about 35 under load, and when its a 3000 it gets up to about 38 before crashing. Both hover about 30 when its idle. What should I be looking into now? This is getting frustrating, having a faster cheap basically going at the same speed as my old one!

08-01-2006, 21:49	#11
bluspikez Super Kustomer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Michigan (I'm from the states) Posts: 964	Does your RAM support the FSB that you are trying to run? It sounds like the processor isn't too hot so maybe it isn't the CPU? __________________ Main Compy: MSI P7N Diamond, Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, Thermalright Ultra120-eXtreme, 4gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer (2x2gb, 4-4-4-12), 2xECS 8800GT's (w/ Arctic Cooling Accelero S1's) in SLi, ASUS Xonar DX, WD Raptor 150gb SATA, Seagate 320gb SATA, Seagate 80gb ATA, Antec 900, Thermaltake Toughpower Modular 700w, Viewsonic VX922, Logitech G7 and Elite Keyboard Speaker System: Pioneer VSX-815, Yamaha NS-333's, Yamaha NSC-444, Yamaha NX-220P's, JBL Sub12 ...and I love Forthy

08-01-2006, 23:36	#12
MattyJ Kustomer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 76	I think it does - I've got DDR333 2700 ram. This is a link to what the Crucial System Scanner says (I think it will work on anyone's machine): http://www.crucial.com/uk/systemscan...926C3&tabid=CR Note I've got the FSB running at 133 here because its stable, but when I turn it up to 166 this is where it gets unstable. Cheers.

09-01-2006, 04:31	#13
Kmc Ayr Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 135	if its a fake 3000 then that would be why it can't do 166, there have been alot of them although mostly 3200. google for fake 3200 u are looking for info re what bridges are cut I think the fsb is determined by the L12 bridge but don't quote me on that Fake ones have been modded so u would need a magnifying glass to check if the bridges are really cut or just made to look that way

12-01-2006, 00:41	#14
MattyJ Kustomer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 76	Well like I said it was in a PC before mine running as a 3000, so I doubt it is a fake! Said PC was in a industrial environment, so it was originally bought from a reputable source. At the moment from what suggestions I've had I'm tending towards getting a new motherboard. I also want to be able to change the IRQ of devices, which mine won't let me do. Does anyone think this is a good/bad idea, or have any suggestions as to what motherboard to replace mine with?

12-01-2006, 08:00	#15
Koolpc Not From Earth Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Under The Desk, Wales Posts: 1,845	I would get a new Motherboard mate. Should solve your problem. __________________ Hexus Trust Always under Construction!

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