Matrix Reloaded Theories (Spoilers)

[danielctull]

Okay having watched the matrix once and the matrix reloaded twice this week (and all of the animatrix episodes at the cinema today I might add ;)), I have a total Matrix overload!

But me and my mates have been speculating various theories on what has happened/is happening. I have come up with a few of the points that we believe with all our hearts... :p I've created this thread because it will allow non spoiler talk to take place in the other thread...

First
I don't agree, or like, the multiple matrices idea... It's too messy, too sloppy. It rules out the whole Second Renaissance story, written by the wachowski bros, this story would be a waste of time if it weren't the REAL WORLD.

Second
Neo has code in him. That code would "usually" disseminate at the choice of the other door, and choice of 23 humans. Smith has part of this code in him. Thus Neo and Smith are equals, and as we know equals repel. Me and my mate's theories go along the lines of an EMP blast taking out the sentinals. Somehow this code in Neo is affected by the EMP blast and puts Neo into a coma. Similarly, Bane/Smith is put into a coma after the use of an EMP, which we know was triggered early, and probally by Bane/Smith.

Third
It is this code in Neo which causes the dreams. The dreams are a part of a control method to make Neo believe in the fate thing.

Fourth
The TV room. We see this in The Matrix. We are introduced to the 'no mouth, insert bug' scene via a grid of the same style TV's. This shows the architect is watching Neo's movements, and has been for a while. Why, I haven't worked that out fully yet...

Fifth
The black people thing. Not meaning to be racist in this point I add now. The matrix is basically our world now. So white people are more comformed to the world and the ideals, and black people would be more likely to let go. Thus easier to be free'd from the matrix.

As I said, this is a combination of long talks with mates and compiling ideas. All of which lead to this agree'd answer. We may not be right, but it is our beliefs. :D

[DaveMark]

Matrix stuff
I found this lot on another forum, it got me thinking. Some people say they thought of all of it themselves, but I didnt so probably others have not.
All formating/order is how I found it, just c+p'ing it for you guys.



Zion is a program, just like the Matrix. How is Neo able to figure out that he is able to stop the sentinels in Zion near the end of the film? The spoon given to him earlier. It had obviously been bent loads, but how outside the Matrix?? This gave Neo the inspiration and the understanding that Zion is still a matrix.

The One explained

"The One" is a program, but has to be "attached" to someone in the Matrix. So Mr. Anderson got it in the 6th version of the Matrix. Then "The One" program's purpose is to allow Zion to be destroyed then to rebuild it. The reason for this is because of anomalies - the 1% of humans that don't accept the Matrix. These are all brought out of the Matrix program and into the Zion program by the "Morpheus" program and other similar "ship captain" programs. Then once all the anomalies are out of the Matrix (and in Zion), that is the time for Zion to be destroyed, thus killing all the anomalies off. The Matrix is then upgraded, thus creating the next version of the Matrix, but Zion must be rebuilt so that the next lot of anomalies can bebrought out again so that they can be destroyed. This is the feedback-loop, and is the reason to retain a handful of people so that Zion can be rebuilt. So this is why Neo said the prophecy was a lie - the One's purpose was not to end the war as the prophecy stated. Unfortunately, "The One" program must be re-used each time, or copied, so it can be "attached" to a new anomaly inside the Matrix. So what happens to the old "The One" program? It faces deletion, and as the Oracle explained, it goes into exile instead, just like the French bloke (the Merovingian) did. He was the first One (probably from the second version of the Matrix), and once he fulfilled his duty, he became an exile program and "abdicated" his "Oneness" by choosing Persephone and power. This is evident in the bogs when Persephone asks Neo to kiss her. She says she wants him to kiss her so she can feel what it is like again to be kissed by something close to human, just like the Merovingian used to be. Then she says to Trinity that she envies her, but that these things are not meant to last. So the Merovingian used to be just like Neo - a One - thus proving further the feedback-loop explained earlier.

The correct door in the Architect's room

Now there are two possibilities here:

1. All the previous One's chose the right door allowing a "temporary dissemination" of their code into the Matrix (i.e., the code they "carry" thus indicating Neo is indeed human), then he must select (unplug) 23 people from the Matrix to rebuild Zion. This takes away the possibility that stories from previous rebuilds of Zion will be carried through. But Morpheus indicated in the first Matrix that this is the case anyway. He said, "there was a man born inside, able to change things, it was he who freed the first of us," - basically the One previous to Neo. And this proves that the previous One chose the right door also. Neo's purpose is also to choose the right door, but he does not because he faces deletion afterwards and has the choice of going into exile - programs choosing to go into exile is the one thing that can't be accounted for in program parameters. Thus, he chooses the left door instead this time. How was Neo able to choose the other door? Because of his extreme willpower? - Even the Architect indicated that he'd noticed this - "Interesting. That was quicker than the others." Or more likely, because the Oracle upgraded his coding with the candy on the park bench. The candy/cookie was a method to change the One's program. She said he has made a believer out of her - this is quite human-like and perhaps the previous One's didn't accept the upgrade candy, now she has hope... hope that Neo will finally choose the other door.

2. All the previous One's chose the left door, saving Trinity and letting

Zion fall. So this time is no different. But the Architect does say, "You are here because Zion is about to be destroyed. Its every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated," and also, "this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it," - assuming the Architect isn't lying, then they have already destroyed Zion (i.e., Zion has fallen) five times - i.e., the result of going through the left door.
Morpheus and Trinity are programs. Morpheus's purpose was to find the One and deliver him to the Architect. Trinity's purpose is to control the One by getting in love with him. Trinity is supposed to be the mother of the new One every time the Matrix is Reloaded. That's why the sex scene was so important and why she was named Trinity.
The Architect says, "she is going to die, and there is nothing that you can do to stop it." He was correct though because she did die just like Neo did in the first Matrix (Oracle said he or Morpheus would, and she didn't lie, but he came back to life). Trinity dies, but comes back to life (we are using medical definition of death in all this of course!).
The Architect has already laid down an ultimatum for Neo choosing the left door:
The Architect - "Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected to the matrix, which coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race."
Neo - "You won't let it happen, you can't. You need human beings to survive."
The Architect - "There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept. However, the relevant issue is whether or not you are ready to accept the responsibility for the death of every human being in this world."
Looking at this further, the Architect does say "coupled" with the
extermination of Zion will the human race be exterminated. So he says everyone connected to the Matrix will die, but if Zion is not exterminated, the human race will not necessarily die. Also, there is likely to be a time-window between not going through the right door, and the cataclysmic crash, thus allowing Neo to unplug as many as possible from the Matrix, then those people won't die. This will be the start of the next Zion. As for the Matrix, a cataclysmic crash doesn't mean the end of the Matrix - just needs rebooting or reloading!

Agent Smith explained

Agent Smith is the only "human" in this world. He's the one spreading

himself like a virus replicating himself over and over until the Matrix will

finally get overloaded and fail. Smith is the one who wants to get out of

the Matrix for good. He said so in the first Matrix, "I must get out of

here, I must get free! And in this mind, is the key," squeezing Morpheus's

temples, "my key! Once Zion is destroyed, there is no need for me to be

here!"

Smith knows that by killing Neo he can escape the Matrix because Neo is the

key to resetting the Matrix, or to shut it off. It was originally killing

Neo (in the first Matrix) that allowed Smith to become powerful (cloning

ability) - so killing Neo again will allow him to gain Neo's powers

completely, and thus gain the power to shut down the Matrix.

So where the hell did Smith come from if he wants to destroy the Matrix?

He's obviously not meant to be there - he's a computer virus as he has every

characteristic of a virus - he multiplies and spreads and infects (and

emulates) other programs like one. He is exactly as he described humans at

the end of the first Matrix - "You move to an area and you multiply and

multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can

survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this

planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus."

But who put him there? This will only be revealed in Revolutions

(Revelations?) I guess - but I'm betting on humans in the real real world,

i.e., outside of Zion and the Matrix. They're at war with the machines and

trying to destroy them by infecting them with this virus - Agent Smith. So

the irony with this theory is that Agent Smith represents the human race!!

Neo represents the machines! Agent Smith says to Neo just after he's seen

the Oracle that he became free when Neo destroyed him in the first Matrix

(remember when Neo entered his body and exploded him from inside out) - as a

virus, Smith has the ability to "inherit" other programs' abilities and thus

inherited some of Neo's.

[DaveMark]

contuned....

The anomaly explained

The anomaly is all the humans that do not accept the Matrix. The Architect

says "Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent

to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly,

which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what

is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden

to sedulously avoid it, it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure

of control." This includes Neo, but Neo's Matrix avatar is attached with the

One program so that he can follow his purpose as explained earlier under

"The One explained". However, he is also supposed to protect himself and

destroy anything that gets in his way - i.e., Agent Smith - so that he may

fulfil his purpose.

Further proving Neo - and other non-accepters of the Matrix - are the

anomaly, the Architect says, "Your life is the sum of a remainder of an

unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix." The clue

here is Neo's program name - "The One". Take one-third for example. 1 over 3

is 0.33333 recurring. A computer cannot deal with recurring numbers, so must

accept a limit, let's say 0.33333 for argument's sake. Multiply by 3, you

get 0.99999 - never 1.00000, where has the "remainder" 0.00001 (One) gone?

This is the limitation of computers, this is the mathematical imprecision

inherent in programming (of the Matrix) and the eventuality of the One

anomaly unable to be eliminated.



What is the equation then?

Not sure, but it definitely involves pi. The Keymaker refers to the window

of time to open the door to the mainframe as 314 seconds. 3.14 is pi to

three sig. figs., or the number of radians in half a circle. Half a circle

is like the cross-section of a womb, similar to the alcove of Neo and

Trinity's love scene - conceiving the next One? "NEO", incidently, is an

anagram of "ONE". Trinity and Neo - one on one; a choice - one or one. Leads

us to 101. "101" is mentioned numerous times in Matrix 1 and Reloaded. Neo's

room at the beginning, Merovingian is on the 101st floor, the 101 freeway of

the car chase in Reloaded, then when Trinity is hacking into the power plant

system, she resets the password to Z10N0101. Freaky. Indicates that she is a

program because that's not some random password she's put in. 101 is binary

for 5, which in zero-based binary counting: 000 is 1, 001, is 2, 010 is 3,

011 is 4, 100 is 5, 101 is 6 - And this is the 6th version of the Matrix!

Then there's 303. 303 is the room Neo got shot in Matrix 1, the Oracle lives

in room 303, it's also the hotel room number Trinity is in in Matrix 1 and

it's seen at the end when Neo fights the Agents and Smith and begins to

literally see the code that makes up the Matrix. 101 x 3 = 303, a trilogy, 3

+ 0 + 3 = 6 = the 6th Matrix. Trinity means 3.



Who is the "mother" that the Architect refers to?

The Architect says, "Please," in an almost disapproving sense when Neo

suggests the Oracle, but does not reveal who it really is or even directly

that Neo is wrong. The architect was the one who created the Matrix; the

co-creator is neither Persephone nor the Oracle. Both of them are only

programs that have a purpose in the matrix, just like the rest. The

Architect is in charge of the Matrix world and the co-creator is in charge

of Zion. She has almost the same age as the Architect. Therefore, that woman

is the Head Counsellor, the only woman of importance that lives in Zion and

the one who asked for the two captains to volunteer at the council meeting.

She's the one who knew all along about the Matrix. She was the one who told

Zion's Defence Minister to cool off and to let Morpheus do his work so

things could go as planned.

Or alternatively, it could indeed be the Oracle. She is the only program

that truly wants humans to have a free choice... at the same time, she sees

the future, because she knows the program code - she is like God - which is

why Seraph protects her - see "Who is Seraph?" below.



What's so special about Neo's avatar?

Neo is a skilled hacker, and his avatar in the Matrix is based on the person

that founded the AI of the original machines that eventually took over the

world... How? Take a look at the disc he gave to the bloke at the door at

the beginning of Matrix 1. It said "DISC AI" on it. The hollowed book Neo

takes the disc out of is "Simulacra and Simulation" - a collection of essays

by the French postmodernist philosopher Jean Baudrillard. He opens it to the

section "on Nihilism" (meaning nothing is truly known, etc.). "Baudrillard's

concept of simulation is the creation of the real through conceptual or

'mythological' models which have no connection or origin in reality. The

model becomes the determinant of our perception of reality--the real." And

Morpheus says, "Welcome to the desert of the real," in Matrix 1. I'd say

this book describes The Matrix to a tee. So this disc contains the key to

the AI, and thus how to destroy the machines, so I think they'll use this

info in Revolutions to ultimately destroy the machines, which means he'll

have to go back to the nightclub and find the guy he gave it to.

Who is Seraph?

The reason Seraph (the guy Neo meets before meeting the Oracle) had golden

code and was so spectacular is that he came from the first incarnation of

the matrix, which was heaven. "Seraph" is singular for the plural

"seraphim". The seraphim are the highest choir of angels and included

amongst others: Lucifer, Gabriele, Raziel and Malaciah, and they sit on the

8th level of Heaven just one below God. So Seraph will obviously have a big

part in Revolutions, but whose side will he be on - the machines or the

humans?? That is the question.

The Twins

They are exiled programs that emulate the human myth of ghosts as the Oracle

explained. They are programs behaving badly. Persephone killed one of the

Merovingian's bodyguards with a silver bullet because he was emulating a

werewolf. So if the Twins could phase into ghost form, why didn't he when

his arm was trapped in the door of the garage? Was it because he was wounded

or because he can't phase when his arm is trapped? No of course not. The

doors of that building, when shut, always led somewhere else (usually in the

mountains) when opened again without the Keymaker's key. So if it were

slammed shut due to the Twin phasing into ghost form, the Twin's arm

would've ended up god knows where, but certainly not attached to the Twin's

body.
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[danielctull]

DaveMark, I read that somewhere else, and I believe wholely that the Oracle is the mother of the Matrix.

Also, I do like that idea about the pill because it fits nicely with my own theories....

The Oracle
Now we thought that The Oracle was always there to help Neo become the One. During Reloaded though, we are shown that she is just another form of control... A piece of the jigsaw that keeps Neo on the right path.

Ummm, but hang on, he didn't choose the "right" path in the end, did he? He should have chosen the other door... We are told that it is his love for Trinity that changes it all, but then this got me thinking.

Smith, in the first 5 matrices was never able to copy himself. So something must have changed this time, different from all the times. We know with some certainty, that Smith gains this power when Neo jumps into him in the first film.

Now there must have been an event before that scene where something happened. This led me to The Oracle, she tells him he isn't the one and thus he goes to save Morpheus because of this. What if The Oracle told the other 5 one's that they were The One? They probably wouldn't have gone back into the matrix and thus wouldn't run into Smith.

This also explains why Neo is the best one. Merovingian says that he is, although I can't remember the actual quote at the moment (it is Sunday morning). He would be better if he learnt it himself that he's the one.

So what else is different this time? Trinity. I believe that all the one's had the ability to love just one woman and thus choose to save her instead of the whole of mankind. Then it hit me. The Oracle tells Neo that she likes him. Would they have got together if he didn't get told this? I believe not. Thus again The Oracle is at the heart of what I now refer to as the "6th difference".

I believe that the Oracle was a program in line. She knew the rules and knew what she had to do. But this time, the 6th time, she has had a change of heart. She has decided that doing this all slighty different would change things a lot. And it seems to be so.

This is why that pill theory fits in nicely. She is actually a program helping Neo, rather than a program to keep it going "just as before" (in the words of Smith).

So final point here. Why do you think she needs a protector? Seraph says that he is the "protector of all that is important" (or something like that...). Because of this loose refernce to The Oracle a lot of people on the web have suggested he isnt the protector of her, but someone else. For any that have played Enter The Matrix, you'll know that he is most definately the protect of The Oracle.

Phew :o

These are some of my beliefs, not all ;), and everytime I tell a friend, a new thought comes to mind, further backing the theory up. So yes, I did just type that at 8.30 on a Sunday morning :D

[PJ Matthews]

It had obviously been bent loads, but how outside the Matrix?? This gave Neo the inspiration and the understanding that Zion is still a matrix.

Isn't it just a little obvious that its a manufacturing process? This a city that has lesser technology than you think. The spoon did not look bent but worked in a manufacturing process way.

[[GPO]Solitaire]

Here’s a theory you's never thought of!!

Like most Religions there is NOT big plan!! No hint's at what is to come or what has gone before! All there are a number of questions which are never (or can never) be answered!

Basically! the Bros. got together and written a good script and movie, then found that people were asking questions about holes in the plotline and script... the fans decided to plug these holes by speculation and interpretation, the Bros. caught on to this and decided to write the sequels (and prequels) to answer the questions by giving the fans a hell of a lot more questions than answers (back to classic religion template here! the good book does not have the answers to life the universe and everything! it just asks you what they are and tries to look smug in the process!)

One thing else!

Most people know or have read the "first draft" of the script for reloaded that's been floating about for ages. In the first draft the "White Rabbit" group he gives the disk to are a captain and crew of another hover ship (this is implied in the first movie but is expanded on when they are sent to rescue Neo and co from their crippled ship just after the end of the first movie!)

The Oracle

She has not changed between the six different versions, she might change how her programming reacts to the ONE because each version of the matrix is slightly different, the machines are trying to breed out the 1% of human rejection by the recreating of the matrix using the code from the ONE. This might introduce a slight 1% rejection in the machines ( the rogue programs disconnecting themselves from the matrix) so the oracle decided to change Neo's code with the cookie in the first movie ( to give him the power of the ONE which she has done in every version of the matrix ) and the sweet in the second movie to expand his perception of the matrix and to open other options, the 1% in both sides can then be erased (the total collapse of the matrix and humanity when Neo chooses the other door)

The Architect says there are limits to survival they are willing to accept, this sounds like they are willing to lose all the humans and the majority of he machines so they could regain control of the planet, they don't need the majority of themselves if they have no humans to grow/control. have you wondered how the humans are born in the first place! we assume that they are grown from human eggs in fully automated fields ( the harvest scene from the first movie) if that's the case why don't they just create a batch of 26 or so clones and reproduce them over and over to give them power! they would not need a matrix to control them if they were genetically created to just be living batteries.

Like I said at the start! This only gives you more questions than answers! :)

[PJ Matthews]

26 or so clones

Won't work. You always need fresh D.N.A. Too many errors would occur if you used the same DNA to clone over and over again.

[PJ Matthews]

She has not changed between the six different versions

If you watch the short films in the game you'll notice her appearance changes (although fans will know theres another reason for this).

PJ

[danielctull]

Originally posted by PJ Matthews
If you watch the short films in the game you'll notice her appearance changes (although fans will know theres another reason for this).

PJ

I think they might write in that she has changed appearance to hide from the higher powers. After she betrays them and leads Neo on a slightly different path (see my above theory ;)). This would also explain why she needs a protector (ie Seraph). :D

[PJ Matthews]

Could this be the ultim8 fight scene?

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=matrixpong.wmv

[davecrowley]

Very funny PJ, but have you seen this ?

http://www.office-humour.co.uk/items/media/movies/The%20Mootrix.asf

Kickass cow in a Matrix stylee !