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danielctull
09-02-2003, 18:02
What's everyones most hated sayings or phrases? One of mine has to be agree to disagree. WTF? It makes sense, but in a stupid kinda way. Why bother saying it? ARGH :mad:

Alan
09-02-2003, 19:52
Not good: "Present moment"

Worse : "This moment in time"

even worse: "This present moment in time"

Capital Crime "At this current present moment in time"

Why can't they say "Now"

These are all redundant sayings, repeating what's been said. It started in the '70s with half illiterate union shop stewards being thrust into the limelight on TV interviews and they wanted to sound formal and proper - and bodged it big time.

Most of the world seems to have picked it up - WHY??

Not as bad as 100% pure Americanisms - especially General Hague - "we are in an ongoing negativedowntime situation" - "we're late!"

The aircraft has had an unscheduled intersection with the ground" - it's crashed.

But the "now" one drives me nuts!

Da_Rebel
24-02-2003, 01:03
Originally posted by Alan
The aircraft has had an unscheduled intersection with the ground" - it's crashed.


ROFLMAO! :D

I hate when ppl say things like that. It's almost as bad as ppl who give themselves fancy technical job titles like "refuse disposal technician" (ie binman) or "Stock Replenishment Assistant" (shelf-filler).

I think the "Agree to disagree" saying makes sense but I still hate it simply because I am prejudiced against stupid weird-sounding sayings like that.

conan
24-02-2003, 21:48
I've got a colleague at work who is forever using "cautiously optimistic" when asked about his progress on a job or project. In other words, he wants to say soemthing positive but won't commit himself, what a load of b******s!

PJ Matthews
24-02-2003, 23:10
Not good: "Present moment"

Worse : "This moment in time"

even worse: "This present moment in time"

Capital Crime "At this current present moment in time"

Why can't they say "Now"

These are all redundant sayings, repeating what's been said. It started in the '70s with half illiterate union shop stewards being thrust into the limelight on TV interviews and they wanted to sound formal and proper - and bodged it big time.

Most of the world seems to have picked it up - WHY??

Not as bad as 100% pure Americanisms - especially General Hague - "we are in an ongoing negativedowntime situation" - "we're late!"

The aircraft has had an unscheduled intersection with the ground" - it's crashed.

But the "now" one drives me nuts!

Waaa?
Well lets look at that shall we.

"Now there is no sign of any survivors, but this could change."
This doesn't make much sense at all. Obviously it is bad english and is making out that there has been a change in the status of the survivors (one minute they were there and now they are not?).

"At the present moment of time there is no sign of any survivors but this could change."

Taa Daa!!!

That was just a quick demonstration that certain phrases in the English language are still required even if a small section of the population are loosing their thin grasp of it.

conan
24-02-2003, 23:26
Taa Daa!!!

LOL... I work for a Japanese company and when one of my Japanese colleagues asked me how we arrived at this or what it was short for I was stumped. TBH still don't know:D

PJ Matthews
25-02-2003, 00:02
LOL... I work for a Japanese company and when one of my Japanese colleagues asked me how we arrived at this or what it was short for I was stumped. TBH still don't know

It comes from the Japanese for I'm back ITYWF.

Kynoch
25-02-2003, 00:05
you sure?

people also use the saying when they complete a job or task etc.

PJ Matthews
25-02-2003, 00:09
you sure?

I think this is just a general miss use of the term.

Alan
25-02-2003, 00:22
"Now there is no sign of any survivors, but this could change."

Should be:

"There are currently, no signs of survivors, but this could change"

or

"At the moment, there are no signs of survivors, but this could change"

If there were survivors, there would be more than one sign so one would include "are" and "signs" rather than "is" and "sign".;)

PJ Matthews
25-02-2003, 13:54
I have simply used your explanation above to assemble the sentence. Now to the more interesting subject of the origins of ta da.

Monkey Rob
25-02-2003, 14:08
surely it simply comes form the orchestra fanfare type blast in things like the circus after a drum roll when the dolly bird finishes her tightrope walk

infact, you probably all have a little .wav in you MEDIA folder called TADA.WAV

I'm sure the etymology is no more complex than that

PJ Matthews
26-02-2003, 00:05
surely it simply comes form the orchestra fanfare type blast in things like the circus after a drum roll when the dolly bird finishes her tightrope walk

And where does that come from? Everything I have read would point to the Japanese for I'm back.

Monkey Rob
26-02-2003, 01:37
aaaaaaaah you're thinking chicken and egg type of thing...... interesting.

Now you've got me annoyingly intrigued about this.

:confused:

iggy
26-02-2003, 02:28
difference, pj, is you are using bad english

Schvetty
28-02-2003, 11:15
the worst i have even seen is >> I let my mind wander, and it didn't come back


proberly didnt in most case's

danielctull
28-02-2003, 19:36
Originally posted by Schvetty
I let my mind wander, and it didn't come back

proberly didnt in most case's

Sure they had one to start of with though? :D

johnwibble
28-02-2003, 19:54
The phrase "for sure" winds me up - why can't people just say "yes" ?? It's mostly sports people (trying to sound American no doubt) who do this - especially racing drivers.
While we are on the subject of sport.... sports presenters cannot pronounce the letter "t" these days. They babble on about teams such as Noddingham Forest and Celdic - what a bunch of dwads

PJ Matthews
01-03-2003, 00:42
difference, pj, is you are using bad english

Obviously yours is so much better.

iggy
01-03-2003, 02:02
"At the present moment of time there is no sign of any survivors but this could change."

that was all i was talking about.

theres no need to get upset

PJ Matthews
01-03-2003, 23:06
I'm not upset - I think we have misunderstood each other.

Big Adam
01-03-2003, 23:15
How about:

"Wherever you are,
wherever you be,
always let,
your wind go free"

As stated by my Mum whenever she farted when I was little, and I told her she smelled.

(Shouldn't I be in shrink's chair, telling you this?)

Dead_One
01-03-2003, 23:25
you are
its just a different shape to your normal one