go on then, some one should ask this question

[Dead_One]

If rangers and celtic join the english premiership, how would they get on?

[master baits]

woooo , thats the very reason my forums never have politics and sport....... worst idea ever.

Seriously you need to analyse the team as a whole , which celtic cannot be when you consider that larrson is the team.The entire backbone is out of contract in a year also.

Same goes for rangers , although since eck came on board there has been great improvement on the field ,but not financially.

Speaking as a football fan , not of any one given team then the best thing that can happen to the scots game is the big two leaving , better for real fans , and real supporter to get behind a team for another reason than secterianism.Maybe we will get back to being a nation where you support the local team , spend on local team shirts and have season ticket to them as well.

It will never happen unless the tic and bears always progress more than the english top flight in europe.

For too long rangers and celtic have had thier way with chequebook tactics , buying the best from the lower teams and benching or selling on or even loaning , a dispicable tactic.

Now what if fifa/uefa were to put a cap on players wages , and insist on a 50 percent nation during an entire game , now that is probably a better question , and benefits all concerned in the long run , especially levelling the ground for poorer clubs.

[Alan]

In the first year in the English Premiership, I would bet a large sum of money that neither would win the premiership.

In the second year I would still bet that neither would win the premiership, but the bet would be much smaller.

In the third year, I wouldn't bet at all.

[GTi]

I would take any bets and give good odds that neither would win the premiership in this decade. European spot maybe at a push.

[johnwibble]

This won't go down well and you'll probably hate me for this ........

They should have to earn a place in the Premier League. I would start them in Division 1 if they had to be there at all. I personally do not want them in an English League - you can't have independence on one thing and then want to join us on another when it suits.

This post is not meant to convey anything against Scots - I work a lot in Scotland and have some good friends up there.

[The Pimp]

Division 1??? They should have to start where any new comer to the league does. The Vauxhall Conference.

[Alan]

There's no question about nationality here - it's all about business.

Three years ago there were only 3 Football Clubs in Britain with capacities of 50,000 and over - and two of them were in Glasgow (there's only four now).

Celtic have over 1 million supporters in U.S.A. alone.

Both the old firm clubs have world wide support, each with supporters' clubs in over 70 countries.

A couple of years ago Rangers were the fourth biggest club in Britain - Celtic were eighth.

In other words, the Old Firm are intrinsically larger clubs than most of the Premiership. They lack competition and, being in a small league, lack the money to attract the best players. If they were in the Premiership these obstacles would be gone!

The very things that English Football fans criticise them for would disappear.

Eventually, TV will allow them to join. The Blackurn/Celtic match made a fortune for Blackburn. Their finance and marketing people said they made more money from the Celtic tie than they would have from three rounds involving continental opposition.

The interest in matches involving Celtic or Rangers woul dbe phenomenal. Which would you rather see as a neutral, Bolton v Fulham or Sunderland v Celtic?
(You can't say ****nal on this forum!!!)
Rangers v The Gunners or The Gunners v Charlton?

[Sharky]

Originally posted by The Pimp
Division 1??? They should have to start where any new comer to the league does. The Vauxhall Conference.

I have to agree with the pimp here

[johnwibble]

I think the main people who are trying to push this are Sky. I believe they have badly let down the people of Scotland when they took their Sky Sports subscriptions off of them promising them Scotish football. Sky would see this as a way of getting more subscriptions out of the Scots

[playbhoy]

celtic and rangers starting off in the conference?!!! never. mind you the quality of opposition wouldn't be much different to what i am used to seeing. if or rather when celtic and rangers go south we will go straight into the, "big" league. £12 million for tv rights in the 1st season. s/tkts will go up aswell so your talking about £17million before the season actually starts. if celtic and rangers who have probably the biggest following outside of man utd could make the champs league in the 1st season then i wouldn't be too surprised to see them in the latter stages.

[peter]

RANGERS+celtic would start at Div1 ..as it was suggested last year...BUT personally i think they will still move at some point as apart from the old firm the rest of SPL dont exist ...well u just have to look at the points table ...as far as sky goes they were pushing it ..they gave all Div1 clubs 8million ( so been told ) that enuff for old firm...as far as games go..theres no game in ENGLAND that can match the atmosphere of a live ( siting in the stadium ) old firm game ...90mins of pure hatered for the other side ...u just cant match it never mind beat it ...probably the only game thats gets beamed all over the word