PDA

View Full Version : The Radeon HD 3870 isn't up to new games!!


Fireblade
20-12-2007, 10:16
If PC Pro's review of the Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 (http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/145233/sapphire-radeon-hd-3870.html#) is anything to go by (and their reviews usually are!), it's...



A competent card with older games, but it can't handle the new generation.:eek:




Our first test confirmed our doubts: Call of Duty 2 is an old DirectX 9 game,
and the 3870's average frame rate of 35fps at high detail settings fell far short of the speeds we've come to expect from Nvidia.

When it came to DirectX 10, though, the 3870 performed more creditably, partly thanks to its generous complement of 320 stream processors.
It managed an average rate of 21fps on medium settings in Call of Juarez, and kept up 21fps in Crysis at 1,280 x 1,024 with medium detail.

These results might be respectable in light of the card's £119 price tag, but it's hard to recommend a GPU that, in the month of its release,
is already struggling to keep up with current games.:(

Seems like ATI/AMD are still playing 'catch-up'!

And if a rumour I've heard on the grapevine is to be believed... they won't be releasing any 'new' products throughout 2008!?
They'll likely be updating the 38xx series in the New Year - in much the same way Nvidia have done with their new G92 revision 8800GTS.
But I'm hearing no genuinely 'new' cards will be released in 2008!?

If founded on truth... that's not good news, 'coz no competition to Nvidia's products, means there's potential for Nvidia to choose whatever prices they want for their cards :rolleyes:

Tweaker002
21-12-2007, 11:52
http://www.expreview.com/img/review/unika_hd3850_512mddr4/unika_hd3850_cod401.png

http://www.expreview.com/img/review/unika_hd3850_512mddr4/unika_hd3850_cod402.png

http://www.expreview.com/img/review/unika_hd3850_512mddr4/unika_hd3850_wic01.png

http://www.expreview.com/img/review/unika_hd3850_512mddr4/unika_hd3850_wic02.png

liadbacklad
21-12-2007, 12:40
I'm afraid fireblade that i don't belive you, what tweaker has quoted is basically what i have found accross all hardware review sites.

Either your source are misinformed, had a dodgy card, or are nVidia fan boy's. I find it hard to believe a 3870 was struggling with COD 2, and why would they use it on an old game anyways?

25 Fps (1280x1024) on crysis at medium for a card costing £119, nuff said really.

LSG501
21-12-2007, 12:42
From what I've seen the 3870 is about the same percentage down in performance as cost against the 8800gt but also has 10.1 support.

ATI are also supposed to be bringing out new dual gpu cards in the 1st quarter of 2008 (jan - mar).

Fireblade
22-12-2007, 08:29
I'm afraid fireblade that i don't belive you...

:eek: I'm hurt :(



Nah... not really :D
After all... it's PC Pro who reviewed the card, not me ;)




Either your source are misinformed, had a dodgy card, or are nVidia fan boy's.I've subscribed to PC Pro magazine for many years now, and in my experience... they're not in the habit of being "misinformed".


[Pedantic 1]

Anyways... how could they be "misinformed"... given that they physically tested the card themselves :confused:

[/Pedantic 1]


As for being Nvidia fanboys: It's not in the best interests of the magazine/site to be anybody's fanboys?


And a dodgy card? Given the number of graphics cards they've tested over the years, I'm quite sure they'd know if the card they had was faulty?




25 Fps (1280x1024) on crysis at medium for a card costing £119, nuff said really.

[Pedantic 2]



It... kept up 21fps in Crysis at 1,280 x 1,024 with medium detail.[/Pedantic 2]

liadbacklad
26-12-2007, 20:57
Well i just bought (read: 'was given for xmas') the following PC:

E6550
3870 512mb GDDR4
4g RAM
Vista

I can confirm at 1280x1024 that crysis, so far, is a beutifully smoth and enjoyable experiance running way higher than 21fps avg. I'd say higher than 30...