Firefox 3 Beta 1

[[M]uuhh]

Love Firefox? then grab the brand new Version 3 Beta!
If you don't know what Firefox is then you probably live under a rock as its one of the most popular Browsers around.

Win32 build: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2007-11-07-03-firefox3.0b1/


Mac&Linux builds: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2007-11-06-18-firefox3.0b1/

[saltynay]

What are the added functions in the latest version of the best internet browser then???

[[M]uuhh]

i have not been able to find notes. else i would have posted them...

These files are not release versions, they are just potential release
versions. Use them at your own risk, without any of the warnings that we
will be putting in the release notes.

To be honest, if you're here from Digg or something similar, we'd really
rather you waited until 3.0b1 was officially announced, so the servers
don't get overloaded and we don't have a bunch of extra work to do.


Not officialy annouced = no offical notes.

[nicky munchkin]

Same old theme, same old slowness, same old memory leaks, same old Firefox.

[mattierara]

http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/01/planned-features-for-firefox-3/

notes on planned features for firefox!

[Fat Jez]

Same old theme, same old slowness, same old memory leaks, same old Firefox.

Now we know what happened to Jacob, he's posting under another name :rolleyes:

I trust you have the evidence to back these claims up?

Cheers,
Stephen

[nicky munchkin]

Now we know what happened to Jacob, he's posting under another name :rolleyes:

I trust you have the evidence to back these claims up?

Cheers,
Stephen
No sorry just me :)

The difference is, I'm not a fanboy. I use the software that is best for me (in this case Internet Explorer 7).

Internet Explorer is faster and uses less memory than Firefox proven FACT. Other than that, I only have my own evidence IE. Firefox always crashing from memory leaks. The theme is my personal opinion.

Of course it is just a beta, so if the final version turns out better than IE7 then I'll be switching.

[saltynay]

If you wanted the fastest browser then you would surely be using Opera....... or the original mozilla browser which FF was based on. firefox is good as its quick and has easy to use plugins with lots of themes its the community of developers that make firefox great not mozilla itself

[nicky munchkin]

if you wanted the fastest browser then you would surely be using Opera....... firefox is god as its quick and easy to use plugins
Yeah, I just don't like Opera, can't put my finger on it. Besides why go about downloading a bunch of stuff when the tools that come with the Operating System do a fine job and keep the machine running smoothly.

[saltynay]

Because I like my:
fasterfox
foxytunes
unplug
update notifier
tabmix plus
quickrestart
session manager
IE tab - for updating windows

[[M]uuhh]

not everyone likes what you like salty.
Correct me if im wrong, Plugins = More memory

[saltynay]

Why does memory usage matter when you have 2gb??? plus quick restart means that you can rapidly cose and reopen the browser with all the pages you were viewing still intact thus cleaning the memory processing file......

I don't think everyone likes what I like but it just seems a bit perverse to use IE7 which is known to be the most buggy browser mainly because of its large marketshare not directly the fault of windows. When other alternatives are freely available such as netscape, FF, Opera and the original Mozzilla

[[M]uuhh]

Why does memory usage matter when you have 2gb???

Why does memory useage matter? Humm ill let you work that one out. but ill just say that a lot of people including me like to run other programs at the same time as a browser.

[Westy5]

If you want to argue about the best browser, then start yourselves another browser flame thread.

Lets keep this for news about the thread title eh? - FF3 B1

[nicky munchkin]

Because I like my:
fasterfox
foxytunes
unplug
update notifier
tabmix plus
quickrestart
session manager
IE tab - for updating windows
I personally find most of the plugins useless. IE7 also has a feature where, if it crashes, it will load the pages you had open.

Unfortunately, because FF is becoming more and more popular, there will soon be as many hackers trying to exploit it. And the Mozilla team won't be ready, unlike the IE team who are used to it.

Do you really think the IE team is better than the Mozilla team? Haha BS. Yes actually. Not only have they created a browser which is stable, they have a system where all vulnerabilities are attempted to be patched quickly. Firefox 2 still has vulnerabilities from 2005 (it's all on that Firefox Myths web page). And as more and more people turn to Firefox, expect a lot more problems with it.

All I'm saying is that the IE coders are used to fixing their browser. There's not really any auto updates for Firefox are there, except when a new release is available.

Of course I could be talking absolute crap, but we'll soon find out.

Why does memory usage matter when you have 2gb???If only we all had your intelligence...

[saltynay]

45,732kb is being used by my firefox atm I don't see that as a major loss when I have
2(1*10^9 bytes) available and as said FF has optional restart so that if it does start to exceed what you expect of it the memory is cleaned.........

[LSG501]

mines at 77meg and all I've got open are 6 tabs of kpc.

[ArTizan]

One thing that annoyed me was that IE development took SO long to include tabbed browsing (and for me at the time this was a critical seling point for FF over IE, not so much now) like it was a chore for them and they only made the effort because FF was stealing their market. It must have been at least a good 6-8 months before they finally bit the bullet.

Well done for FF for innovating the market, I'm sure a lot of IE improvments likely wouldn't have gone ahead without FF development and innovation initially.

[RND]

We’re happy that you Digg us, but…
(Hi! You may have been redirected here while looking for the Firefox 3 Beta. We’re sad to say that it’s not actually ready yet, but we’re awfully happy that you stopped by. Read on for more details!)

Seems its not out yet anyway.

One thing that annoyed me was that IE development took SO long to include tabbed browsing (and for me at the time this was a critical seling point for FF over IE, not so much now) like it was a chore for them and they only made the effort because FF was stealing their market. It must have been at least a good 6-8 months before they finally bit the bullet.


I get the impression that the tabs in IE7 are more of an addon rather than a solid part of the app, dunno why.

[LSG501]

One thing that annoyed me was that IE development took SO long to include tabbed browsing (and for me at the time this was a critical seling point for FF over IE, not so much now) like it was a chore for them and they only made the effort because FF was stealing their market. It must have been at least a good 6-8 months before they finally bit the bullet.


There have always been ie based options which include tabs - maxthon is/was one off the top of my head.

[[M]uuhh]

Correct me if im wrogn but FF did not invent tabbed browsing and FF is mearly taking ideas from other browsers and including them in one browser. im not sure how you see tabbed browsing as just a quick hack on IE7. dosnt feel that way to me.

[nicky munchkin]

uuhh;424040']Correct me if im wrogn but FF did not invent tabbed browsing and FF is mearly taking ideas from other browsers and including them in one browser. im not sure how you see tabbed browsing as just a quick hack on IE7. dosnt feel that way to me.
Opera 5 released 2000 was the first to have tabs.

And it doesn't feel like an addon to me either. Feels better than FF.

[LSG501]

Opera 5 released 2000 was the first to have tabs.


Are you sure, according to living internet.com (http://www.livinginternet.com/w/wa_browser_mult.htm) it was internetworks developed by booklink inc in 1994 :)

Tabbed History. The first browser to offer tabbed browsing was InternetWorks (http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22internetworks%22%2Bbooklink&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wg), developed by Booklink Inc., and winner of the Comdex show's Rookie of the Year Award in 1994. The program (http://www.seyboldreports.com/SRDP/0dp9/D0904.HTM#I17) was renamed GNNworks (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=gnnworks&btnG=Search) the following year when it was bought by AOL and incorporated in their online client. (The same development team then went on to develop AOL's Instant Messenger application.)
The next known browser with what it called "dynamic browser tabs" was Simulbrowse, now called NetCaptor (http://www.netcaptor.com/), released by Adam Stiles on January 3, 1998, followed by Opera (http://www.opera.com/) V4 in 2000 (Opera had earlier introduced the multiple document interface enabling cascading and tiling of browser windows). For some reason Internet Explorer and other browsers did not immediately appreciate this innovation, and the next known browser to offer tabbed browsing was Mozilla in 2003, followed by Apple's Safari. However, once it became a discriminator, everyone had to have it, and by 2005 most browsers supported tabbed windows of some kind.

[saltynay]

Damn it I can't seem to find a copy of the original booklink version :( I wanted to see how far tabs have come since there creation.