View Full Version : Bernard Manning dies
redswipe
18-06-2007, 19:36
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1271089,00.html
P!nK SaFfY
18-06-2007, 20:24
Huh.. I thought he was already dead.
Huh.. I thought he was already dead.
he should have been to be honest...
P!nK SaFfY
18-06-2007, 21:14
I never personally found the guy funny.. but I'm sure he had a lot of fans!
Anyway.. here's a couple of his (clean-ish!) one liners..
When God gave you teeth, he spoilt a bloody good ar*e. -- Bernard Manning.
I'm glad I'm not bisexual. I couldn't stand being rejected by men as well as women.
-- Bernard Manning
R.I.P
i bet his mother-in-law is happy
Unless she`s already dead in which case he`s gonna be screwed when he gets to heaven :D
He had some funny jokes.
Chris moyles was talking about him this morning. As he said People called him racist but he made jokes out of absolutely everybody including himself.
DarkEntity
19-06-2007, 22:02
Shoulda happened years ago....ignorant, racist, sexist pig!
I thought it was the Turkey Bloke not the comedian :(
ah well yay! for Turkey Burgers and twizzlers ( bleeurrrgh ) :(
I thought it was the Turkey Bloke not the comedian :(
ah well yay! for Turkey Burgers and twizzlers ( bleeurrrgh ) :(
Actually Bernard Matthews is more of an a**e than Manning IMHO :mad:
P!nK SaFfY
20-06-2007, 13:21
I thought it was the Turkey Bloke not the comedian :(
ah well yay! for Turkey Burgers and twizzlers ( bleeurrrgh ) :(
ROFLMAO!!... thanks.. I needed a giggle. :D
Shoulda happened years ago....ignorant, racist, sexist pig!
off screen bernard was a nice man
that makes it even worse, he thought he could be racist onscreen.
he thought being racist was funny and something to joke about.
Shoulda happened years ago....ignorant, racist, sexist pig!
At least he appreciated the difference between a joke and actually meaning it...something a lot of people don't seem able to do. Including a fair few people here who are trashing a brilliant comedian because he wasn't politically correct, like modern society seems to prefer...
Joking about being racest isnt funny to thsoe like me who are at teh but of the joke. you cant expect people to like him especialy those who didnt find his work funny.
I was bullied at school for being fat; I don't curl up into a fetal ball when someone makes a joke about fat people. Even if you don't find it funny, at least try and understand the difference between a joke and actual racism. This guy took the **** out of everything, including himself. If you'll forgive me for putting it this bluntly, he didn't come on stage ion a white cloak constantly spewing racism with a burning cross in the background; which seems to be your impression of him.
Jokes are acceptable. Saying that someone should be dead because of the content of their jokes isn't.
PS - I agree with you 100% on racism, I just don't class this guy as a racist just because he made politically incorrect jokes.
I was bullied at school for being fat; I don't curl up into a fetal ball when someone makes a joke about fat people. Even if you don't find it funny, at least try and understand the difference between a joke and actual racism. This guy took the **** out of everything, including himself. If you'll forgive me for putting it this bluntly, he didn't come on stage ion a white cloak constantly spewing racism with a burning cross in the background; which seems to be your impression of him.
Jokes are acceptable. Saying that someone should be dead because of the content of their jokes isn't.
PS - I agree with you 100% on racism, I just don't class this guy as a racist just because he made politically incorrect jokes.
the little i saw of the guy he was a "....ignorant, racist, sexist pig!" as another member put it. unless i see for myself another side of him. that is how i think of him. im not trying to make people think the way i do, im just giving my opinion.
its like this...
I don't care what the jokes about. a joke is a joke, and i like to have a laugh and bernard made me laugh, i wish people would stop using racism all the time as an excuse because they are jelous of very brilliant comics like bernard, chubby, and a million others. The DVD's make it quite clear "if easily offended do not buy"
you want to know what racism is? it's someone who's willing to kill because their skin colour is different, it's an element of jelousy that leads to general psychotic behavior towards culture differences, bernard did none of this. If you're talking about black or white skinned people being bad because of that skin colour then you're just plain stupid because theres bad in all cultures.
All said and done racism is for stupid people who are not very intelligent and know little about life, they just think they do through rumours from others, unless you know the person and the facts you cannot make the claim that someone is racist,
Now the reason bernard made jokes about cultures is the same reason he made jokes about policemen because he is a comic and it's to make you laugh, theres no difference.
Maybe certain people ought to do their homework on this topic because the differences in comedy and hatred through racism are as different as water and sand, the facts are there he was a family man who entertained well.
Archaon maybe they should watch the film ROMPER STOMPER starring Mr Crowe then they would know all about racism.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=7023010246257643193&q=romper+stomper&total=81&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
you want to know what racism is? it's someone who's willing to kill because their skin colour is different, unfortunatly that statment ruined your whole post that may have ment something if you didnt ruin it by saying that. you have real no idea what racism is in the real world.
being a policeman i know all about racism and deal with it on a weekly basis, sarcastic comments about race via comedy is not racism in any part. to be racist you are intentionally breaking laws that i won't go in to detail about, comedy is not even the same ball park.
Racism is NOT “someone who's willing to kill” racism does not mean that you want to kill a person because of a skin color. Racism affects people in many ways.
Someone may not get a job because of their skin color.
Someone may not get a job because of their native language or religion. Weather it be black or white skin color.
Someone may be singled out and bullied or abused or simply called a name if their skin color. Race/ or religion is different.
Racism is not just about “Oh I want to kill all black people cos their skin color” most racists would never dream of killing people even if they are black as you imply.
look im going to be honest, im talking about bernard manning as a comedian which is what this threads about. youre going off the plot totally here, youre talking about racist verbal abuse and other topics like discrimination which comedy is not.
the point i was making is there is a difference in illegal and perfectly legal, bernard did nothing illegal in that respect did he.
and yes as a rule there is a problem in what you mentioned but thats nothing to do with this thread, a lot of bernards friends who watched him live were from different backgrounds, and yes racist people are perfectly capable of killing.
movinginthedark
21-06-2007, 22:47
I can see this topic becoming locked - I personally agree with Aztec.
To be honest, if you find him funny - roll with it. If you don't like him, don't watch.
Simple. It's not like he was a hate preecher or actively encoraged racial discrimination?
I can see this topic becoming locked - I personally agree with Aztec.
To be honest, if you find him funny - roll with it. If you don't like him, don't watch.
Simple. It's not like he was a hate preecher or actively encoraged racial discrimination?
QFT :rolleyes:
One thing to think about.
People here are saying bernard manning is racist.
Is it racist when Black or asian comedians make jokes about white people?
jacobzcoool
22-06-2007, 15:56
Well, people say no but really it is. Bernard Manning was fine in my opinion as he joked about everyone, including himself.
I have no problem with Bernard manning. He wasnt the funniest of comedians but some of his jokes made me laugh.
Its like chubby brown I think he is really funny at times but a program on tv a couple of weeks ago made out he was a racist.
Big Adam
22-06-2007, 19:47
A question for all the guys who think Bernard Manning was not a racist:
Is it acceptable to stand in a football crowd and throw bananas at a black player?
The player won't be physically injured and you and your mates think it's fecking hilarious. Why the hell are those stewards advancing towards you? After all you were only "having a laugh"! What is this country coming to when you can't stand in the crowd and make monkey noises every time the black geezer has the ball?
Now, please explain to me in logical easy to understand terms, why it's NOT acceptable to do the above, but it IS acceptable to stand in front of an audience, single out the one black guy in the crowd and tell him "this must make a change from swinging through the trees".
If you can explain that to me, I'll accept that Bernard Manning was not a racist.
The majority of comedy offends someone. John Cleese is famous for stating that you can make a joke about anything, including rape, and he's been proven correct over and over again as comedians continue to push the boundaries. In comedy, nothing is sacred and you can either accept that as fact or put your fingers in your ears and scream la-la-la-la-la.
But don't pretend that Bernard Manning was something that he wasn't. He wanted the audience to laugh and it helped him greatly that his club was packed night after night with people just like him. The great British knuckle-dragging public with an underlying latent racist streak running all the way through them like a stick of rock.
Tastes and attitudes change through the generations. Fact. My father found Bernard Manning hilarious but is offended by Little Britain. Manning was a comedian of the old-school from the Jim Davidson / Jim Bowen era and frankly, trying to say he wasn't racist is like trying to polish a turd.
I don't think I've ever seen Bernard Manning perform and I certainly don't know if his racist but on this issue I do think theres a very fine line between racism and good humour. To use your football example BA, I think when someone does something along those lines its meant to belittle/ridicule the person its aimed at which should certainly not be tolerated. Although I think its ok where someone tells a joke like, making fun of a stereotype for example but which was made with the intention of having a laugh and not singling out a particular group maliciously.
DarkEntity
23-06-2007, 11:54
I don't think I've ever seen Bernard Manning perform and I certainly don't know if his racist but on this issue I do think theres a very fine line between racism and good humour. To use your football example BA, I think when someone does something along those lines its meant to belittle/ridicule the person its aimed at which should certainly not be tolerated. Although I think its ok where someone tells a joke like, making fun of a stereotype for example but which was made with the intention of having a laugh and not singling out a particular group maliciously.
unfortunately Manning never did that, he was an out and out racist, as mentioned he would pick on people in the crowd etc...."this must be a chance for you not swining through the trees etc"
Imo the world is better of without him and he should of died years ago...nasty piece of work, and someone who shouldnt be adminred.
RazzleUltra
23-06-2007, 12:26
If you're from a minority and you go to a Bernard Manning gig, surely you'd expect that kind of treatment, and probably be okay with it?
I'm not condoning malicious racism, but stand-up comics have a long standing tradition of ripping on anyone in the audience for pretty much anything. Racism is technically displaying undue prejudice to someone based on race. If you're ripping on everyone and everything, it's no longer prejudicial, which is why so many comics get away with it.
Indeed, if you call him racist then by the same standard you're saying he's -ist to pretty much everything in the country. Including himself; and that just doesn't make sense.
mattierara
24-06-2007, 15:18
I saw a documentary about him once, and he went on tour .. in India. They loved him, he went down a storm. He used all his own material but changed it to suit his audience ie anti pakistan or bangladesh. It seems to me, he was a clever guy because his humour played on other people's prejudices. A lot (i won't say all) of his racism/sexism was put on in order to make himself seem like he was just like his fanbase. If you went to a Bernard Manning show you know what you're going to see and hear. You're there by choice. It's not harassment or shoved in your face. peoples free will. I like a few of his jokes and most people would be surprised if they took time to look them up. There are some really funny non prejudiced jokes there. He was a flawed character, true. But you have to look harder at the people laughing at his jokes than you do at him.
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