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shifty.ricky
19-02-2007, 10:59
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6374547.stm
Another one for you today (its ok, waiting to go to a funeral so have time to rant...)
Why can't you lock mentally ill people up? The key here is a "danger to other people". If someone has a disorder that makes them paranoid and likley to hurt other people I sure as hell want them locked up.
My mum used to work in a mental hospital (towers in Leicester) and she agrees that most of the people there could have checked themselves out but they were in no way capable or shuold be allowed to live as free people as they were confused and could turn violent easily.
Big Adam
19-02-2007, 11:43
Locking people up isn't the answer to crime. It's far too expensive and inefficient.
Abuse of human rights is the answer.
5 years in prison isn't a deterrent. It's a badge of honour.
No testicles. Now THAT'S a deterrent.
Locking people up isn't the answer to crime. It's far too expensive and inefficient.
Abuse of human rights is the answer.
5 years in prison isn't a deterrent. It's a badge of honour.
No testicles. Now THAT'S a deterrent.
Why can't they employ more people like you?
Locking people up isn't the answer to crime. It's far too expensive and inefficient.
Abuse of human rights is the answer.
5 years in prison isn't a deterrent. It's a badge of honour.
No testicles. Now THAT'S a deterrent.
lol - I swear more peoples opinions in this country are going this way.
I think that making criminals and such work for the community is the way to go - you know, like putting down rail tracks etc...
They should also be locked up for their own safety, or be cared for in their own homes.... we had a mentally ill lady wandering about our Village and the Kids never left her alone, it was quite sad to see them taunting her.... social services didn't seem to care, she was filthy and unkempt and allowed to wander no life for anyone.
She's scary though... threatened to stab me once when I was was walking with my Baby Son, followed me half way home shouting abuse, I had to get someone to walk me home because it was frighteneing, she had her own son taken off her when he was small so everytime she saw other Mums with small boys She'd threaten them. Social Services did send a carer down to help, but that didn't last long, havent seen her around for ages. She hammered on our door one Christmas around midnight shouting about our lights, Jon just shut the door on her.
Not really to do with mentally ill people although most criminals could be classed as having somthing wrong with them mentally to a degree.
What really ****es me off with locking people up is that everything is provided for them once they are inside, it is just like a holiday camp but you cannot leave unless you are in one of them stupid open prisons.
If you removed the sky tv and all the other luxuries and made them do hard labour instead it would drastically reduce running costs and would also provide cheap labour to help improve the countries infrastructure.
Surely that would make people think before re-offending.
Over the removal of testicals, i think it is a fitting punishment for any type of sexually motivated crime.
Locking people up isn't the answer to crime. It's far too expensive and inefficient.
Abuse of human rights is the answer.
5 years in prison isn't a deterrent. It's a badge of honour.
No testicles. Now THAT'S a deterrent.
its all fine and well until you yourself are in jail for tax evasion or by a mistake. and have no testicles. you cannot start removing parts of peopels bodys, or murdering people that are in jail ntil you have removed any possibility that you can never make a mistake and kill/punish an inocent man/woman. Btw, what would you do about female convicts? the numbers of female prisoners is exploding right now. i should know, i have two aunts that work at womens jails. and a cousin thats a resident there.... (best place for her i think)
bob_monkhouse
21-02-2007, 19:51
What really ****es me off with locking people up is that everything is provided for them once they are inside, it is just like a holiday camp but you cannot leave unless you are in one of them stupid open prisons.
If you removed the sky tv and all the other luxuries and made them do hard labour instead it would drastically reduce running costs and would also provide cheap labour to help improve the countries infrastructure.
Surely that would make people think before re-offending.
Hear hear.
No way the labour party is getting my vote, largely due to how weak they are in tackling crime!
jacobzcoool
21-02-2007, 20:32
That's it! We need to form the AntiChav Party :D
I get to be leader though
I get to be leader though
Good lord.
:eek:
Been though my brother was in the last few months before he blew his head off and my ex g/f is very depressed and has just been put back into HDU. There not easy to be around with or love hense the ex!
enfocre the death penalty!!!
movinginthedark
25-02-2007, 23:53
Gah - don't start this whole death penalty crap... It is bad enough that the UK seem to be adopting more and more of America's ideologies. Every single day - you open the newspaper to see this sort of thing scrawled across it - But I can hardly see how destroying these people is the way forward. I agree with the hard-graft and serve your time argument. Death is hardly a punishment - why should there nearest and dearest be made to suffer for there crimes? If anything this would spark more of a riot than anything else.
Sexual related crime: Branded across the forehead with "Rapist"
Theft: Depending on seriousness of the crime - finger(s)/thumbs removed.
Murder: To be fair - I have been brought up on "an eye for an eye" but I don't think this should be enforced - But I do think that hard work should be, a megre attempt to pay the community back by working. And a life sentence should be a life sentence.
... my piece said... rather right wing - but it would work.
scotland_craig
26-02-2007, 14:22
my dads a taxi driver so he likes getting mentaly ill people in without carers because most of them dont wont to get out so my dad just keeps the meter running on and on and on and on....
I can't decide which is worse, that he does that or that you told us.
Gah - don't start this whole death penalty crap... It is bad enough that the UK seem to be adopting more and more of America's ideologies. Every single day - you open the newspaper to see this sort of thing scrawled across it - But I can hardly see how destroying these people is the way forward. I agree with the hard-graft and serve your time argument. Death is hardly a punishment - why should there nearest and dearest be made to suffer for there crimes? If anything this would spark more of a riot than anything else.
Sexual related crime: Branded across the forehead with "Rapist"
Theft: Depending on seriousness of the crime - finger(s)/thumbs removed.
Murder: To be fair - I have been brought up on "an eye for an eye" but I don't think this should be enforced - But I do think that hard work should be, a megre attempt to pay the community back by working. And a life sentence should be a life sentence. Maybe Russia is onto something?
... my piece said... rather right wing - but it would work.
That doesn't make it any cheaper to enforce the law that way though, does it? Life sentences would be very expensive, in a system that is already struggling to cope with numbers.
Personally, I think that the death sentence avoids the economic burden of imprisoning criminals; maybe not a nice solution, but a cheaper one that might also make our criminals fear being caught. Failing that, I also think that we should make them work in prison, whatever that might be. And have none of the luxuries that current prisoners are allowed.
movinginthedark
26-02-2007, 23:21
Well, to be fair - when there working to pay for there accomadation, and whatever is left goes to the community - they are still repaying society.
Definately agree with the fact that luxuries should not be given. If you have commited a huge atrocity (sorry about the spelling), then no matter how hard you work, you shouldn't be given rewards, but for example, car thiefs, if they reform and work hard, say they can have every other friday afternoon off or something?
Otherwise people would grow to hate the system, but at least that way they can see that there is something to work for, and goals to achieve rather than just taking shortcuts. In theory it would teach people morals.
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