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PJ Matthews
07-10-2002, 14:29
I have finally found a small PSU thats NOT a shuttle and cost me just £23. The version I got is 145 watt flex ATX PSU from Aopen.
Its fantastically small, althought to make my fit height wise I've had to open the PSU case up and remove it. The PSU disasembled EASILY fits inside of the maplin aluminium cases.
If anyone wants any more details just say.
afraser2k
07-10-2002, 14:57
Yep I'd like some more information please. Have you tried the PSU on a system with a GF4? I've found that the SS51G has a 200W PSU and would cost me around £40.
Thanks :)
PJ Matthews
07-10-2002, 16:22
I just used it to power my main system with a gf3, dvd, cd-rw, two harddisks and an athlon 1.4.
If in doubt theres also a 180 and 200 watt verson of it.
Dabs hold the 180 watt and 145s watt versions - manufacture code:
180 watt - 180SAV
145 watt - 145SA
And can be seen at: http://www.aopen.nl/products/power/default.htm
All stip down very nicely, you will however need a soldering iron to get the power connector out of the case. I'll give more details insurtcions on how to remove it if anyone needs (or wants it). Stripped down it fits in very well, and all even feature speed controllers, very ideal for the SFF.
I'll post pictures of mine installed soon as poss.
PJ
afraser2k
07-10-2002, 16:37
The FSP200-60SAV (200W version) looks ideal for my requirements. Hopefully I can find a UK reseller if Kustom don't get them in.
In saying that though I think the 180W PSU will also be fine as although I want to make a LAN gaming machine, it won't have many devices.
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PJ Matthews
07-10-2002, 18:00
If you can't I'd have thought the 180 watt edition would be enougth and at just £23, you can't really go wrong.
where'd you get em' from? they sound almost too good to be true :)
PJ Matthews
07-10-2002, 19:03
www.dabs.com (http://www.dabs.com)
Search for PSU - Then use the manufacture codes to identify them - they really are perfect.
Dabs also sell a "Smart Cable kit" for these power supplies - any idea what is so smart about it?
PJ Matthews
08-10-2002, 01:41
LOL
PJ Matthews
08-10-2002, 01:44
I have no idea what it is, I can't see where on the PSU it'd plug in. I presume it must add additional power connectors as it only has two large ones and one small one.
afraser2k
08-10-2002, 09:29
I've gone and ordered the 180W one so I'll let you know how I get on using it. I plan on using an ally project box and a FlexATX NForce2 motherboard with it for LAN gaming and stick a LCD in the box. I've got plenty of kit available to me at work (LED's, etc.), all I need now is the motherboard IMO.
PJ Matthews
08-10-2002, 12:25
That'll work out nicely, you will however need to try a couple of very low profile coolers and fans for the processor you choose to use. Purely for reasons of heat, I'd recommend the duron range.
PJ Matthews
08-10-2002, 12:35
For those wishing to remove this PSU from its wrapper without destorying anything! You will need:
Two screw drivers (one philips and one flathead for prising).
Patience.
Soldering Iron
Solder
Solder sucker jobba
The PSU is in two main sections. One is extremely small and bolted onto end, I presume this is voltage regulation, the other is the main unit. Don't disassemble the small unit, theres not much point.
The main unit has all of the mainscrew points that are obvious, but another side screw can be found behind the AOPEN manufactures label. It took em ages to figure out why the hell my case wouldn't open. The screw behind this label is attatched to the main radiator thus holding the whole thing down. Remeber to un screw the main fan with the case on as its directly soldered to the board.
With the lid off there are now two pieces we need to unsolder, one is the voltage regulator device hanging off the rear of the case, and the other is the kettle style power connector. Remove the main PCB with the four screws (one at all corners) and turn the board over. Carefully follow the lines back of the power connector and voltage regulator. They are are fairly large solder pads, you'll need a solder sucker to remove them. Make a note of which leads go where as if you get this wrong theres gonna be one hell of a bang when you first plug her in.
The end voltage regulator now needs to be unscrewed from the main case, once done, unthread the leads from the main case and then resolder to the main PCB. I decided to leave mine inside the small box due to high volatge nature.
Thats about it - a pic should follow in a bit.
Please excuse the mess - its me desk - lol
http://www.walibe.com/epiamess.JPG
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PJ Matthews
08-10-2002, 14:03
Can anyone guess what type of internet connection I have?
lol :D
afraser2k
08-10-2002, 14:03
Originally posted by PJ Matthews:
<STRONG>That'll work out nicely, you will however need to try a couple of very low profile coolers and fans for the processor you choose to use. Purely for reasons of heat, I'd recommend the duron range.</STRONG>
I've got some ideas for the low-profile hs/fan but I'll need to look at them some more. With the prices of Duron's and XP's these days I'm hoping that the newer XP's will be a lot cooler I'll just need to wait and see. I had an original plan of using a duct on the CPU so that I could use a 80mm LED fan pointing out of the case with a fan-guard. I'll need to wait until the new board comes out to sort anything out with the system.
Ooo, ADSL monk3h! ;)
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PJ Matthews
08-10-2002, 14:18
Its a nice idea, but I think the most practical will be a small cooler facing upwards with a circular hole straight over the cpu fan to vent the air straight out, which should help cool. Lets not forget what our cases are made of, they are one giant heatsink if you will, this is why I'm more confident about moving the PSU fan away from the PSU to a more empty location in the case.
PEEJ
whats the actual dimensions? when its still in the box.. i mean the metal box.. not the packaging, if it even did come in packaging? it did though right?
Is that a bunny with breasts i see on your desk? :D
did you make that rhyme on purpose? because its obvious that bunny just has ear muffs hanging around his neck!
No i didnt make it rhym on purpose, and i aint referring to the white fluff under the neck, i am on about the way the jumper on the rabbit bulges.
oh yeh lol i see it now :D Now why would there be a rabbit with breasts on the desk..? And why were you looking that closely to notice?
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PJ Matthews
08-10-2002, 19:06
Its a friggen snowman with jugs ya fool! lol.
http://www.walibe.com/christmas.JPG
PJ Matthews
08-10-2002, 19:08
In the box it won't fit - the important bit the height is 6.5cms which is too high for the box, but when stripped down is perfectly fine.
I only looked in that much detail because, there are cuddly toys in a Boys room, and there of the christmas nature. :D :D
PJ Matthews
08-10-2002, 19:27
There are a few cuddly toys, a sonic and a few other special ones from over the years. However what you can't see if the Rugby Mascot teddies (mainly for Harlequis) :) .
Yes they are of a christmas nature, im giving them away for christmas but until then my transexual christmas friends are sitting look pretty. I picked um up at work (at the 1.2 billion profit TESCO stores where I work part time whilst at uni) and you can own them too. Just £3.99 a pop at this size, £7.99 for the one up and £29.99 for the one even further up than that, and teh snmallest teeny weeny guys at £1.99.
End of TESCO advert.
afraser2k
09-10-2002, 09:41
Originally posted by PJ Matthews:
<STRONG>In the box it won't fit - the important bit the height is 6.5cms which is too high for the box, but when stripped down is perfectly fine.</STRONG>
I've got access to a CAD/CAM machine at work so I'm going to try and pull in a favour once I get the parts together and ask a mate to cut 4mm aluminium into a project box as that's what my boss did for lab equipment, this of course if I can't find another ally box somewhere.
I found a place selling slimline CD-ROM adapters but they only do a minimum order of a 50-pack so unless Kustom can get them in I'm going to have to go for a normal dvd/cd-rw combo drive.
PJ Matthews
09-10-2002, 17:37
well you can always get your adaptor from ebay or www.ultim8pc.com (http://www.ultim8pc.com)
lol, jumping from a slimline cd rom to a cd/dvd/rewriter :D :D
PJ Matthews
09-10-2002, 22:43
I'll show you my arangment perhaps tommorow (if it egts finished). I'll tell you thise, theres no way your fitting a full size DVD-ROM etc into the aluminium case from maplins unless you use an ITX board.
PEEJ
Correction: No ITX form factor boards were released, so how you came to get one is a mystery to me
From mini-itx.com
1.9. Was there ever an "ITX" form factor?
There is an ITX form factor, but no products have been released.
PJ Matthews
10-10-2002, 00:40
Micro ITX then - ESSSHH!
The Epia is a (Micro) ITX board!
lol, but you missed out the Mini part :D :D :D
PJ Matthews
10-10-2002, 01:12
No itx boards have ever been sold, only prototyped, which is why mini-itx is often just refered to as ITX.
But you were still 'technically' wrong :)
PJ Matthews
10-10-2002, 12:09
But I am 'morally' right. :)
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