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Hey all,
Thought I could start a new thread where people may trade invites for Bit Torrent related sites....I have invites for Demonoid.com and Torrentleech.org. I'm looking for an invite for uknova.com
Ta
dylanmikagami
15-02-2006, 20:34
you aint allowed to do that here man since it illegal
you aint allowed to do that here man since it illegal
not true...
bit torrent is not illegal per se, in fact the developer of the protocol is actually going fully legit.
to discuss file sharing again is not illegal, if the content is not subject to copyright.
for one of the latest articles on legitamate bit torrent... http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1090
Big Adam
15-02-2006, 20:44
to discuss file sharing again is not illegal, if the content is not subject to copyright.
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He speakee the truth.
Discussion of file sharing = OK
Discussion of illegal file sharing = Bans, deletions, pestilence, mucho mucho badness
wouldn't mind a torrentleech invite.. i'm on demonoid and mininova... hrm
dylanmikagami
15-02-2006, 21:27
ma bad yall
Modfather
15-02-2006, 21:33
waft.. i never realised how far the first client has gone:P.. good ol' bram has made a business outa it
http://www.bittorrent.com/
That site has developed a bit since i was last on it
you aint allowed to do that here man since it illegal
Simply - No! The file sharing protocall is not illegal at all!! People just hear it and go barmy! But I'm willing to give invites out for a uknova.com invite
Trading invites to sources of illegal / stolen software & entertainment may not be illegal, but borders on the edge of moral acceptance imo. its not like people will use these sites to download legit software since its its usualy available vua P2P on the developers website, such as WoW patches/ open office.
I'd looked forward to a nice, topical discussion on torrents!
movinginthedark
16-02-2006, 00:24
Ok - sorry to bump but a little confused?
What is the difference between P2P file sharing and Bit torrent. I know P2P is peer to peer and Subject A can download information and media pulling from many other users, but it is a downloaded .exe that runs from your desktop. Aren't bit torrents more or less the same only there hosted on the net? :confused:
torrents are exactly the same as thinkgs on the fastrack network (kazza etc.). the only difference is web based trackers that stitch it all together. if you need info on how any of the peer to peer networks operate then go to www.slyck.com and the info there will tell all. I actually track the rss feed on my forum to see what is happening in the world of p2p but dont actually use any form of p2p myself these days....
I've found direct downloads from servers beat the performance of downloading from torrents the majority of the time. Now if a client had a search built into it to find then download files that would be good, sadly its not the case.
I've found direct downloads from servers beat the performance of downloading from torrents the majority of the time. Now if a client had a search built into it to find then download files that would be good, sadly its not the case.
go and read the news on slyks pages.....
there is one browser with a torrent search engine built in but I aint doing all the work....... I'm sure that I have given a big enough hint on where to look....
hylian_231
23-02-2006, 12:05
Is the software on there actually real? I always thought they were all viruses
Why do these torrent sites use invitations? I would have thought the more people you get on the site the better? :confused:
I've been trying to get on Demonoid for ages but with no luck :( Torrentleech have open invitations on atm if anyone is interested.
waft.. i never realised how far the first client has gone:P.. good ol' bram has made a business outa it
http://www.bittorrent.com/
That site has developed a bit since i was last on it
Bloody hell, last time I looked at it that site looked like it had been made in MS Word...
nicky munchkin
19-03-2007, 17:28
Cheers for resurecting a one year old thread :rolleyes:
Thanks for bringing this thread up, i enjoyed reading about where bittorrent treads the line regarding legality and also i learned about a few new sites...
If anyone wants to pm me a invite to demoniod.com i would be grateful. thanks.
:)
Cheers for resurecting a one year old thread :rolleyes:
You'll get over it. ;)
[GPO]Solitaire
19-03-2007, 20:06
You gotta laugh at this guy! Moaning cause P2P put him out of business...
http://tinyurl.com/36hytw
jacobzcoool
19-03-2007, 20:21
Solitaire;397331']You gotta laugh at this guy! Moaning cause P2P put him out of business...
http://tinyurl.com/36hytw
Brilliant... :D :p
nicky munchkin
19-03-2007, 22:14
Oh boo hoo your illegal business didn't work I feel so sorry for you... :p
oh get real... it is a tongue in cheek article...
it has happened though. the market in pirate music cd's has disappeared since the likes of kazzaa and emule came along. the only thing that is selling these days on the pirate scene is latest movies. the prices though are not that high though.
every place i visit i hear that 'a chinese bloke in the pub' does hooky dvd's for about 3-5 quid, depending on whether you get a case and cover or not. a lot of the chinese silvers are very poor cam copies though....
The other reason that the pirate market has gone is that there are a million and one people with a broadband connection to the net and are actually capable of using bit-torrent or any of the other p2p clients out there...
saying that though.. the real scene is on usenet and irc though... none of this crappy filesharing lark for the serious users...
every place i visit i hear that 'a chinese bloke in the pub' does hooky dvd's for about 3-5 quid, depending on whether you get a case and cover or not. a lot of the chinese silvers are very poor cam copies though....
lol!! I thought that was only in our area, these Chinese ladies come into our local selling DVDs for a fiver a pop practically everynight.
nope, from newcastle to london, from crewe to norwich... every place i visit there is a chinese man or woman doing the rounds in pubs with dvds...
£3-£5? They're ripping you off lol.
Big Adam
20-03-2007, 12:25
nope, from newcastle to london, from crewe to norwich... every place i visit there is a chinese man or woman doing the rounds in pubs with dvds...
He/she must be stalking you?
£3-£5? They're ripping you off lol.
not me.... just makes it harder to ship the porn out at a decent price
He/she must be stalking you?
probably... ( cue stereotypical 'they all look the same to me' *)
*footnote
this bit is a joke. chinese people do not all look the same... neither do blacks, arabs or jews.
It is a shame I have to spell this out for those who may take this out of context and accuse me of making racist comments... in fact, there are some very sexy chinese women... and a fair number of mingers too. Same with the greek girls... they are either hot or hairy.... and I do have rellys that fall into both categories
I meant relative to the price in China lol.
Why do these torrent sites use invitations? I would have thought the more people you get on the site the better? :confused:
I've been trying to get on Demonoid for ages but with no luck :( Torrentleech have open invitations on atm if anyone is interested.
Invite-only sites mainly rock because they track ratios, and tracking ratios encourages good seeding. Therefore, people don't leech and run off.
There's also the sense of community and loyalty in places etc. :)
There's also the sense of community and loyalty in places ethehe thats funny :) i like that, generaly torrent sites are filled with script kiddies and 12 year olds yelling at poeple in comments. i never thought there could be stable communitys on torrent sites. although i havnt used a torrent in over 2 years. (well i tried but got bored of the 50KB max speeds)
nicky munchkin
23-03-2007, 08:55
Without them we would have to pay for Linux distributions :eek:
Well some distros let you download straight from there site but... erm...
*walks briskly away*
Cosmo_1847
23-03-2007, 09:10
I use torrent for downloading different programs, mostly shareware or OSs like linux and freeBSD as I find that the download speeds are much faster than getting it over http or FTP since there are more people uploading the disc images.
@[M]uuhh the reason they probably have invites to the site is to keep out the kiddies. The 12 year olds that will DOS you simply for being able to write English and not l33ts.
I use torrent for downloading different programs, mostly shareware or OSs like linux and freeBSD as I find that the download speeds are much faster than getting it over http or FTP since there are more people uploading the disc images.
I was also going to say this; (Re: Nicky) you can get most linux distros through the mirroring service but in comparison your downloads can be MUCH faster using a torrent. Many people do leech and run, but that's probably because they are downloading illegal porn/ music/ movies. As Cosmo said, because linux is legit you find that more people continue to seed after downloading.
Euphoria
23-03-2007, 13:26
P2P can be tracked so easily... why are there so many torrent sites on the net that can stay afloat, when a simple search brings up loads of pirated material? Surely the owners would be done for it?
Cable Monkey
23-03-2007, 13:51
P2P can be tracked so easily... why are there so many torrent sites on the net that can stay afloat, when a simple search brings up loads of pirated material? Surely the owners would be done for it?
A site based in Eastern Europe is very difficult to shut down and the efforts of the authorities are concentrated on illegal porn and security threats. Copyright theft comes a very poor third. Also many sites succesfully closed have done so after being threatened, not after testing the rules in court. Part of the difficulty is where the original copy came from and who is uploading/seeding. Even the old P2P cases where the music industry struck, it was only the very biggest and most persitant [B]uploaders[B] that were targeted.
Finally cross border sharing brings a conflict of interest. Example: NBC in the US produces a hit show. They sell to channel 4. Who goes after the uploaders. NBC have made their money. Ch4 have spent cash on the show and unless their figures are impacted to the point their advertising revenue goes down, they are not going to spend anymore pursuing leechers in court. In a climate of such chaos the policing is by network providers who try to stop heavy downloaders for their own reasons and by doing so get the legitimate downloaders as well as the others.
Also, what law are P2P sites breaking anyway? The site doesn't host anything except the torrent files.
Euphoria
23-03-2007, 16:52
But are torrents not the seed/source to the material (software etc.)?
[GPO]Solitaire
23-03-2007, 17:45
That's what the big debate over P2P is!
Are the text files that contain the links Illegal? or just the software on the remote server?
But are torrents not the seed/source to the material (software etc.)?
No, the people uploading the file are the source.
brumster
23-03-2007, 19:41
Exactly. The torrent is just a tracker; a starting point for how to connect to those sharing the actual data. It's like you ringing me up on the phone and asking me how you can get some hooky copies of films, and me giving you the phone numbers of 10 people who might be able to help. The big argument is - am I implicated in the copyright theft by giving you such information, even though I didn't actually pirate the films or distribute them?
(I'm not saying I have the answer, by the way!) ;)
Euphoria
25-03-2007, 22:13
I guess that's a good point. Still a risky site to own in my opinion!
I guess that's a good point. Still a risky site to own in my opinion!
It is when the *AA think they can invent their own version of the law.
Hence why isohunt.com had to move to Canada recently..
i'll have an invite if someones got one, i can return the favour as i have invites for pink, torrentleech and demonoid.
nicky munchkin
28-06-2007, 17:19
Well it looks like the US government has interefered with bittorrent as all movies/music etc. must be paid for.
I've found direct downloads from servers beat the performance of downloading from torrents the majority of the time. Now if a client had a search built into it to find then download files that would be good, sadly its not the case.
You'll be wanting a decent usenet provider then (like Giganews).
If you want direct search then give Newsleecher a try with Supersearch (it's a subscription service though, but that's fair enough since it does index thousands of newsgroups every 10 minutes!)
Anyhow.. torrents. I don't use them. Sure they're free but 1) They're almost always painfully slow, and 2) They can place you in the legal crosshairs since you're technically "sharing" copyrighted material.
Cosmo_1847
29-06-2007, 10:47
I use a program called TorrentFlux on my server. It is a web based app that uses phython on the server. It's good if your server doesn't have a GUI or if you have bandwidth shaping on your ISP so you can put it onto server that isn't shapped so it can download the torrents and you can download them over FTP or SSH or even HTTP.
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