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dangel
13-07-2005, 09:07
...maybe.

Haven't done much reading yet but can anyone point me in the right direction as to which motherboard/cpu to go for. Here's what i want:

Motherboard (AMD)
- onboard lan, (audio a plus)
- good for overclocking
- nVidia SLI-ready (although initially i'll just have one 7800gtx on it)
- support for dual core if possible
- good memory voltage spread (perhaps to 3.4+)
- good clearance for watercooling blocks
- ATX
- STABLE!!!

CPU
- obviously an AMD - but which one? What's good for price/performance
when taking overclockability into account (on water)?

Many thanks for any pointers, i'm still just researching given my current system (6800ultra/2.5ghz athlon mobile) is still fast enough for modern gaming. The 'push' factor is actually the new graphics card - PCI-X only of course!

BUFF
13-07-2005, 13:41
- good memory voltage spread (perhaps to 3.4+)

Only 2 mfrs that I know of will give you that - ABIT & DFI.
I think that EPoX give you 3.1 or 3.2V.

col
13-07-2005, 13:58
Worth checking out the Ultra to SLi conversion on DFI boards too.

KyeC
13-07-2005, 14:23
I heard DFI are for overclockers, and that some issues they have are because they should not appeal to mainstream or mildly overclocking gaming peoples...

Or i may of heard wrong. The issues i think i heard of were BIOs problems, which was a while ago though on there 756 board :D

stdRaichu
13-07-2005, 16:13
Gotta have to recommend the Asus SLI Platinum. Much more reliable (not to mention quieter) than the Neo2 it replaced, and if overclocking is your thing it's apparently a noticeable improvement on the older lower SLI Deluxe (e.g. you can get over 250MHz memory at 1T command rate).

X2 support out of the box, dual gigabit LAN, BIOS-switchable SLI selector (only use one GFX card meself), PCI3 1x and 4x connectors and seems to have plenty of clearance around the CPU. Not had a look at what the max mem voltage is though.

Don't get confused with the version that was never released with the carppy chipset fan - the released version has a very cool (arf) heatpipe cooler for the chipset.

What CPU you want depends a great deal on what you want the computer to do; personally I'd go for an X2 4400 but if games are your thing then you might prefer a single-core chip with a higher clock.

The Asus has been chonking away as a render node for the past few days (and turning my room into a furnace in the process :D), so I guess it's stable enough.

col
13-07-2005, 17:01
If its overclocking you're into then there should only be one board on your list

DFI Lanparty NF4 SLI

It has everything you asked for. I have had no issues with it and I've had planety of Asus and Abit boards over the years. Currently using bios 510-2. With the right cooling it will go to incredible speeds.

dangel
13-07-2005, 17:23
Gotta have to recommend the Asus SLI Platinum. Much more reliable (not to mention quieter) than the Neo2 it replaced, and if overclocking is your thing it's apparently a noticeable improvement on the older lower SLI Deluxe (e.g. you can get over 250MHz memory at 1T command rate).

X2 support out of the box, dual gigabit LAN, BIOS-switchable SLI selector (only use one GFX card meself), PCI3 1x and 4x connectors and seems to have plenty of clearance around the CPU. Not had a look at what the max mem voltage is though.

Don't get confused with the version that was never released with the carppy chipset fan - the released version has a very cool (arf) heatpipe cooler for the chipset.

What CPU you want depends a great deal on what you want the computer to do; personally I'd go for an X2 4400 but if games are your thing then you might prefer a single-core chip with a higher clock.

The Asus has been chonking away as a render node for the past few days (and turning my room into a furnace in the process :D), so I guess it's stable enough.

TBH mostly for gaming - so X2 processors will probably wait until they're priced more agressively. I'd be putting a waterblock on the chipset, so cooling shouldn't be an issue. As is, i'm defintely going to have to get another cpu block as i had to mod my asetek block to fit by Abit NF7-S motherboard due to clearance issues. Sounds like a really good board - thanks for the recommendation, much reading will be done :)

So which single core A64 represents the most overclockable-value-for-money point? I'm looking to build a machine that runs rings around my 2.5ghz Athlon-M for example..

dangel
13-07-2005, 17:25
If its overclocking you're into then there should only be one board on your list

DFI Lanparty NF4 SLI

It has everything you asked for. I have had no issues with it and I've had planety of Asus and Abit boards over the years. Currently using bios 510-2. With the right cooling it will go to incredible speeds.

Hmm another for the list - my only experience with DFI was back in the K6-2 days and i didn't much like them. However, i hear good things about them of late, so time to have another look! I've historically gone for Asus and Abit boards for the past few years just because I liked the stability, the layout and the quality.

dangel
13-07-2005, 17:39
Hmmm what might swing it is the asus having a parallel port... i've just got me a lcd display that uses it ;)

Both look really impressive tho - bags of features and pricing is about the same too..