Help please....

[jwinkler2005]

I recently put together my first pc. Everthing went well and it booted up fine but then i noticed that the speed of my processor was totally wrong. I installed an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ w/400mhz FSB and the bios is only showing an AMD Athlon 1900+. Ive read through alot and ive pretty much narrowed it down to two options...either not up to date bios or the motherboard did a poor job of detecting my actual cpu, and i do have the most up to date bios for my mobo...i was wondering if any one could help me fix this...my chip is currently only running at 133mhz fsb, and i would like to get it back up to the full speed of 400mhz...here is the rest of my pc's specs:

Chaintech SKT600 mobo (400mhz FSB compatible)
Corsair 512mb PC3200
Radeon 9600 256mb
WD 200gb HDD

More than anything i was wondering how to change the fsb in order to improve the actual speed of the processor. and when i go into the bios the fsb option shows 133mhz and it is locked and will not let me do anything... should i mess with the DRAM or is that not it....the DRAM is currently set at "auto by spd" should i change that to one of the three options "133mhz, 166mhz or 200mhz" or is that a totally diff. thing....any help would be greatly appreciated

[jwinkler2005]

also i forgot to add my cpu clock is currently set at 133mhz....the range is from 133mhz to 165mhz should i put that up as well...and if so how much? thanks

[matkubicki]

Hi there

I'm thinking you want to select the 200Mhz FSB option, its wierd for it not to auto select the correct speed, but i know that the 3200+ as an FSB of 400 (divide by 2 as its DDR so 200) That should work, make sure you know how to reset yr BIOS (the jumper on the board) just in case it doesnt boot with the new settings, let us know how you get on

[jwinkler2005]

the problem is im not sure how to set the fsb....when i go into the bios and find the fsb option it is locked and will not let me select it....should i set cpu clock higher? currently its at 133mhz with a 165mhz max..???

[matkubicki]

I wouldn tbother setting the CPU clock as that really is only a temp solution, it also wont speed your RAM up which should be going faster than it is, you want to change the DRAM clock from 133 to 200, in your first post you said its currently set at auto SPD which im suprised didnt work. As i said make sure you know how to reset the BIOS before changing a clock speed.

[jwinkler2005]

Ok i found my problem out and i feel real stupid for this.....the AMD 3200+ that i bought ended up being a fake....i ran into another website showing pics and how to detect if it is a real 3200 or not....and guess what...mine was identical to the fake one....so thats my problem...im so mad right now :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: and have no idea what to do since theres not much i can do in terms or getting my money back... :confused: :mad: .......but i greatly appreciate all the help u have been giving me...thanks alot

[matkubicki]

Hey im sorry about that, i sort of had a suspicion to be honest but i have sometimes seen then them do this when there not fake, did you buy it off a retailer or an individual?

[jwinkler2005]

i bought it off the internet....usually i dont go with anybody but who i usually buy off of from the internet but this time i thought i found a great deal which i did and i now found out that it wasnt a good deal after all...after reading some reviews of this place i found out that they were horrible and pretty much a scam...i was one of the lucky ones that actually got their item...i only trust one online retailer right now....warning: if the deal looks too good..then it probably is....but i guess ive learned my lesson...but thanks for the help..

[Spanner]

Are you positive? I had a 2400 that showed up as a 1900 also, it turned out that if the MB couldn't identify the chip properly it defaulted to 1900. Im not big on BIOS settings for processors, so I don't know what you need to set. When I had the problem I contacted the retailer and got it sorted.

Might be worth a try.

Cheers
Spanner

[daniel_owen_uk]

Setting a processor to autodetect should in theory detect the correct speed (if the bios revision support that chip).

[jwinkler2005]

OK i have breaking news......i got my pc to post the 3200....i totally overlooked switching up the jumpers.....im such a dumb @ss, but after i get out of the bios screen the pc doesnt seem to want to go any further...it just kinda hangs their with nothing but a blank monitor....i finally get the 3200 reading which is unbeleivable news for me...but any suggestions on how to boot the rest of the way or what i may be doing wrong??? thx for all the help so far....

[jwinkler2005]

ok i just tried it again and this time i got pass the bios and out of everything but when windows was supposed to load up i go an error saying that windows was unable to start properly, this may be due to a hardware change or w/e....well duh...but if i hit any of the options my pc just seems to wanna freez and not load windows...so im not sure what to do, does this mean reformatting the HDD and starting from scratch...it wouldnt be a huge deal to do this but it would save much time and effort if i could find an easier way...once again any suggestions are welcome, and i was just updating everyone on the error is.....thx!

[pneoxian]

i have the similar problem as jwinkler
i also have an athlon xp 3200+ chip
with a Gigabyte motherboard : ga-7n400 pro2

when i first turned it on it showed it was running at 1100mhz
so i was thinking there was something wrong with the clock switch
while reading the manual it says if i leave it off (which what i did) would only result in my pc running at 100mhz with fixed fsb of 200mhz for the cpu
but if i turn it on, it would become auto detecting and would detect my rightful speed which should be 400mhz

but when i did turn the jumper on, and turned on my pc, all my pc was made a funny noise and then shut off by itself.

can somebody please tell me what is going on and how do i fix this?
thanks alot

[pneoxian]

okay i tried turning the clock switch on (auto detect mode)
and went into the bios to turn the fsb to 166; it became 2500+ but it shuts down right before the loading windows screen appears

so i turned the fsb to 133; it became 1900+, shortly after getting on in windows it will shutdown by itself.

i didn't bother turning my fsb down to 100mhz because it might have been the same problem.

so i turned my clock switch off to let it run at 1100mhz

overall, i noticed that my cpu temperature was unusually high, like the average of 75°c. that is too high. im guessing that the heat is causing it to shutdown.

i've spoken to a person about this, and he says that the people who fixed my cpu onto the motherboard may not have done a good job at it. does anybody have different views on this?

[jwinkler2005]

ok i found out that my 3200 really was a fake....its a amd 2500+ in disguise but as for pneoxian, have u tried moving ur jumpers on ur mobo to fit the fsb of ur processor....the correct setting for a true 3200 is at 200(200x2=400fsb)...try that first and if that doesnt work try putting it at the 2500 speeds of 166mhz on ur jumpers...if that works then u may have a fake processor...tell me what happens

[jwinkler2005]

by the way hows the cooling in ur case?