Do I Have A Cooling Problem?

[TiSwAs]

Now i'm not sure on what a comfortable CPU temperature should be but it seems as though my CPU fan is running quiet loud, so i presume it's running fast to cool the CPU.
Please have a look at the screen dump i've done and let me know if i do indeed have a cooling problem
If i do what can i do to control this?, any advice on a similar style CPU fan like the retail version to allow hot air to be remove from holes in case.

I'm not running any CPU intensive software, it's only running OS.

Case - Silverstone LC-04 (CPU holes ontop of case for retail fan)
CPU - P4 3.0ghz
CPU Fan - Retail that came with it.

http://img61.exs.cx/img61/2827/cooling4dk.jpg
http://img61.exs.cx/img61/8676/tskmgr4ll.jpg

Thanks in advance.

Dave

[Cable Monkey]

Hi,
your temps are dependant on a number of factors. If your board is socket 478 then you have a couple of options. Northwood or Prescott (3.0C or 3.0E). If your chip is a Northy your temps are high, if a Prescott then they are normal. If your board is LGA775 then you onlly really have the Prescott option and your temps are ok. This (http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_2661.html) might be a decent alternative to the standard fan if it will fit your board and case.

[Slamdog]

everything cable monkey said....

i bought http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_2614.html for my northwood 3.2c and it is very quiet and keeps the cpu under 35c on idle.

[TiSwAs]

Got A LS-10 Abit Mobo with Prescott 3.0ghz processor.
Might check out the fan to see if all is fittted snug will check out the link.

Cheers

[Slamdog]

the retail fan will be letting it down for sure. i dropped 17c when i put in the tt tower thing over the standard retail hsf.

[TiSwAs]

the retail fan will be letting it down for sure. i dropped 17c when i put in the tt tower thing over the standard retail hsf.

Cheers, i think the high profile of the one you recommended will be too tall and the fan is to the side.
Looks like i'll have to trawl through the pages to find one suitable and quiet!!

Thanks

[Slamdog]

it does depend on your case.fits nicely in my lian li pc75usb though..

[Br4inDe4d]

Also I dont know if its a problem with your Motherboard but i know on my AV8 the temp thing displays my temp at 50 idling and it has been identified that this is a problem with the mobo, so check the abit forums for anything like that..

[Damian]

Well i dont know if it is the heat-sink slamdog,

Most new intels are packaged with the new intel heaksink, at least the ones i have recieved had.. and the intel heatsink is supposed to be better than most made my "decent" cooler manufacturers...

>Here's (http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20041103/index.html)< a Linky!
(and here (http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20041103/cooler-08.html) if your lazy!)

Im sure you could improve this with bits and piece's but this is the same sorts of temps i've been seeing, 40-45 odd in idle in the bios with the 3ghz+ intels...

This is mainly for others if they want a read, and if you've got anything for me slamdog on the subject i wouldn't mind some, i've had my head in the clouds recently... (lots of work on).

;)

I admitt that there could be a possiblilty of this being caused by problems/damage to the motherboard, as i've had this myself... but if it is its so its not too far off, mine was in the 80's!! (and it wouldn't boot!).
(being unless you've added bits and piece and seen no improvement.)

:D


Damian,

[Cable Monkey]

Slamdogs chip was a Northy, and the HSF supplied with those were crap by anyones admission. Later ones are more efficient out of neccesity, but the original poster did state his HSF was noisy. Both Slamdog and I suggested quieter sollutions. Your test compares the retail HSF with mediocre competition, so much so that it compares well with noise levels of 46dBA??? None of the fans in that test would win awards for quiet operation. I guess you can make anything look good if you carefully select the competition.

[Damian]

Its true that i missed that, but i was mostly conserned with answering the original problem... Its clear by the links i showed that the manufacturers made heatsinks to cool efficiantly rather than sustain quiet operation, and im sure if they could produce some which could do both and still produce results they would have... (or will do in future, if at all possible.. ).

In this case you can either have "decent temps" or "quieter operation"...



And as far as "mediocre competition" is conserned the only reason why they have produced coolers which havn't measured up to that of intel's is simply because they havn't had as long as intel to produce something better... (and saying intels, the one he has currently, performs better than the current competition).

I was simply pointing out that his cpu temp's look similar to those i have been getting with the new heat-sink, (I assumed he had a "retail" boxed because it stated that in his first post... and since they have been putting these new h/s's in the retail box since november of last year i would have thought that he had one.. ), Taking into consideration the date in which he posted
(and the last few details) i put two and two together and assumed that he had one, simple really.. (And i did say you can improve this temp by adding bits and piece's, such as "thermal paste").


So if it is true that all this add's up his temp readings arn't far from normal, as i said in my last post.. But he could "add bits and piece's" to improve this. Sorry for the confusion (if any), (glad you pointed it out!) + (fair comment!)

As far as the links go they where "mainly for others" to read, being that if anyone wanted to readup on the heatsinks and bench-marks they could,
(as well as providing temp tables to show my workings, thats all..).



Damian,

[Cable Monkey]

Sorry for the confusion (if any), (glad you pointed it out!) + (fair comment!)

Perhaps I'm guilty of assumption anyway because my experience showed if you used products such as the TT heatpipe coolers you can get cooler and quieter on sk478. However I have avoided Prescott and in doing so have denied myself the hands on experience you have. Looking around, there aren't too many LGA775 coolers around. That gives 2 possible scenarios. The format is young, or, the retail HSF is not half bad... :)

[Slamdog]

sounds a lot like me, I have no prescots here at all (and wont have if there is a decent sh northwood out there) I'm quite happy to stick with 478 for a good while yet.

As for heat/noise the std intel cooler i had was not that good at all, but I almost put my alpha hs on the 3.2 with a silent 80mm fan. Then I thought about it and decided to try the tt tower. I was more than impressed by the build quality and the design itself fits nicely in a lian li because the exhaust from the hsf blows straight onto one of the case exhaust fans. the hot air effectively gets shot straight out of the back of the case.I will definately be buying another tt tower when I build the next rig...

[fantasticdan]

Do you have a temperature sensor that measures the ambient case temperature because from what i can tell from your picture. It looks like he one on eh bottom right is your case temp, and if your case temp is 42.5 degrees that is way too high, you need some more exhaust fans. If you add these teh cpu temperature will probably drop aswell because you are now no-longer cooling a cpu with overly hot air.

[DAWG]

Re: The OEM HS&F review: Tom's Hardware reviews should always be taken with a pinch of salt. Sometimes, they like being controversial and as such, get things wrong. I'm not saying that in this case they are, but previously they have shown to be way off-mark (hey, they aint alone!) :D

[Damian]

well, i wouldn't say there that bad, but i have seen somethings which have made me think, is that right? however, i do stick by most* of there stuff, this included... ( mainly as i've seen evidence to suggest that its true... ), but they are good and better than most of the sites out there...

:p

But at the end of the day who do you believe?
(I pick the majorities, otherwise it gets confusing..)

:D


Damian,