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I was just reading the CustomPC magazine CPU supertest and i noticed that a overclocked 3000+ Winchester could outperform a non overclocked FX53.
As you can tell , thats a hell of a jump, so i figured out that you would need an fsb of 250 for the winchester to get to 3500+ speeds without changing the multiplier.
I was thinking of getting a setup and overclocking a 3000+ as i have watercooling so i dont see temps being much of a prob, and i was wondering what ram speed you would need to hit a 250 fsb without probs and also what Soc 939 mobo would be able to get a 250+ fsb ??
boards - probably all of them
just to let you know both the AMD 64 3500+ and 3000+ socket 939 cpus top out at 2.6Ghz or 3600+. i think, you may want to check that
im at 240 fsb now, with my multi at 10. thats with a 3200 winchester. the 3000's have a locked multi up to 9.
Whats the stock speed for a FX53??
Also temps wont be a problem, im getting 35oC idle and 48oC on load. So watercooling should be fine! :)
You don't need to run the RAM at 250 - the system will be quite happy running a divider/ration. Of course you may not get quite the same performance with your RAM at 200 instead of 250 (assuming the same timings) but bandwidth is not something that a 939 running Dual Channel is lacking.
The FX53 runs at 2.6ghz with a L2 of 1meg , the 3000+ runs at 1.8 with 512k L2.
I was just looking at the overall performace table and the value for money table aswell in the magazine, the cpu (3000+ winchester) is the best value for money cpu and also scores higher than the FX53 on overall performance when overclocked.
Do you think that some average DDR 400 would still be able to get good performance with a divider/ration ???
Do any of you know a site which compares the different Winchester Core Athlon 64s, their Memory Cache Sizes and Frequencies. I am under the impression that all the Athlons clock to the same level. So it would be better to get a 3200 rather than a 3500 and they would overclock to the same level? I will be watercooling so temps shouldn't be a problem. What is the Lowest Athlon 64 which has 1MB Cache
, the 3000+ runs at 2.8 with 512k L2.
No it doesn't.
Clock Speed: 1.8 GHz (1800 MHz)
L1 Cache: 128KB (64KB + 64KB)
L2 Cache: 512KB
Socket: 939-pin organic micro PGA
Voltage: 1.4 v
Core: 90nm "Winchester" Core
Bus speed: 2000 MHz
Cheers for correction, i was taking it out a magazine , must have read it wrong :)
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