754 or939 ????????

[dandy]

hi iam gonna have built a new system and i dont know which way to go 939 or 754 /?????
any :confused: :confused: advice

[Aa-chan]

Wait 'til after Christmas when the new nForce4 boards will be out and about, then go Socket 939 :) . Socket 754 is just a replacement for AthlonXP really and has no real upgrade path.

[dandy]

is there any sli boards out at this present time

[Aa-chan]

I'm not sure if there are any to buy at the moment, but I know Asus have one. Best waiting for there to be more of a selection before choosing :) .

[BUFF]

Socket 754 is just a replacement for AthlonXP really
Not strictly true (& you could say the same about 939 tbh) - I bet you that my 3700+ can give an FX-55 a run for the money.

dandy, budget & main use?

[dandy]

need it for xmas...!!!! best futurish proof system budget max 1500.00 including tft

[digit]

Not strictly true (& you could say the same about 939 tbh) - I bet you that my 3700+ can give an FX-55 a run for the money.

dandy, budget & main use?when overclocked to a 4000+ it will :p

i would recommend you to go down the skt 939 route so you don't make the same mistake as me going down socket 754 which is a dying socket :(

[BUFF]

when overclocked to a 4000+ it will :p

i would recommend you to go down the skt 939 route so you don't make the same mistake as me going down socket 754 which is a dying socket :(
4000+ nothing! 2.7GHz here (& of course 1 meg cache) :D
& 939 isn't future proof either - at some point in the next year or so AMD will transition to DDR2 or DDR3. At that point there will be new cpus & mobos & the older cpus won't work in the new mobos & vice versa.

Anyway with £1500 to spend 939 makes sense - ASUS SLI board, PCI-E gfx.
drop a line to sales@kustompcs.co.uk - they'll see you right & you will get a quality system with excellent support should you need it.

[digit]

hmm i guess you are right buff ;) I myself would not bother with pci - e sli, a 6800 is fast enough on its own :eek:

[Archaon]

Not strictly true (& you could say the same about 939 tbh) - I bet you that my 3700+ can give an FX-55 a run for the money.
So can most recent AMD or Intel processors, even the better P4s contrary to fanboy belief.

But the point is, for some people those few seconds count. For others, they just want to make one larger investment rather than two smaller ones. There are of course, just the show-offs and/or rich people...but meh.

[BUFF]

So can most recent AMD or Intel processors, even the better P4s contrary to fanboy belief.


Well of course it all depends on what you are doing - in some things the P4 will win, in others the AMD64 will win by such a margin that it isn't funny.

[brumster]

Dandy,

If it's got to be before christmas then I'd get yourself something like an MSI K8N Neo2 or ABIt 3rd eye s939 board, stick a 4000+ plus in it, go for a 6800GT or X800 Pro (preferably the former and o/c it, but let's not start the whole ATI/nVidia argument again ;) ) and you've got yourself a pretty good system. Even if you wait the extra month for a PCIe AMD board, the PCIe aspect won't be driving the current graphics cards anything passed their AGP equivalent so you're not realising any current benefit. And by the time graphics cards come out that use the best of PCIe, your motherboard and CPU will be out of date already. PCIe will undoubtedly bring out some good deals on AGP-based boards and graphics cards, and a 939/AGP system will still last you a good 12 months if you're happy to not be at the 'bleeding edge' all the time.

If you are the kind of person that has to be on the knife edge of current technology all the time, then fine - wait 1 month - but be prepared to p*$$ your money up a wall for the sake of it ;)

[BUFF]

Dandy,

Even if you wait the extra month for a PCIe AMD board,
Graeme was expecting the ASUS start of next week iirc.

[brumster]

Well there you go then :) get a PCI-e board next week and you're sorted. Performance-wise you won't see any reasonable difference but at least you've future proofed a little (that's assuming the PCI-e board is a sensible price compared to an AGP solution).

[BUFF]

A8N SLI DeLuxe is about £120 inc. VAT elsewhere - haven't seen a price for a basic A8N yet.

[broadband]

A8N SLI DeLuxe is about ?120 inc. VAT elsewhere - haven't seen a price for a basic A8N yet.

Seen one for ?123
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[dandy]

thanks you have been agreat help !!!!!
939 it is then with hopefully a sli board ya thanks DANDY

[stdPikachu]

939 isn't future proof either - at some point in the next year or so AMD will transition to DDR2 or DDR3. At that point there will be new cpus & mobos & the older cpus won't work in the new mobos & vice versa.

Remember that new memory will simply require a new memory controller on the CPU die. There's no reason it can't be incorporated into a 939 CPU. Remember, one of the biggest reasons you upgraded mobos in the past was to get access to faster/better memory cos of new chipsets - this doesn't have to happen with AMD64.

Granted if we're going that far down the line, you'll prolly want a newer chipset to take advantage of 900GB/s HT and quad channel memory, but 939 has got quite alot of life left in it.

[dandy]

If You Was Going To Build A 64 And You Had A Maximum Of £1500.00
To Spend Including Tft Screen
What Would You Put Together ??????

[BUFF]

Remember that new memory will simply require a new memory controller on the CPU die. There's no reason it can't be incorporated into a 939 CPU.

I agree there is no reason that it can't be included in a new 939 CPU - but DDR2 or 3 use different contacts to DDR so they need different RAM slots =>new mobo (or you get a new 939 cpu supporting DDR2/3 & hinder it with what will by then be slower memory plus as you also say there will be better chipsets by then too).

[stdPikachu]

D'oh, silly me forgetting about the different DIMM configurations. Maybe AMD will bring out a CPU where not only the memory controller but also the memory slot is integrated into the CPU... ;)